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Skitarii 1.09
Evil and Chaos
 Post subject: Skitarii 1.09
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:02 pm 
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Version 1.09


Changes in this version:
Fixed typo in cost of Praetorian upgrade.
Matched Gorgon stats from the Death Korps of Krieg list.
Added Executioner, Stormblade & Stormsword stats.

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 Post subject: Skitarii 1.09
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:39 pm 
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AM Lunar : 2x Pin-Point Attack ?
2 pin-point attacks look more like a Gothic cruiser. Lunar cruiser has 3BP orbital bombardment and 1 pin-point attack.

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 Post subject: Skitarii 1.09
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:50 pm 
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Quote: (Flogus @ 22 Mar. 2009, 22:39 )

AM Lunar : 2x Pin-Point Attack ?
2 pin-point attacks look more like a Gothic cruiser. Lunar cruiser has 3BP orbital bombardment and 1 pin-point attack.

Yep that's a typo, it should be Gothic class.

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 Post subject: Skitarii 1.09
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:57 pm 
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Any chance for a "how and what to" for these Skitarii?

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 Post subject: Skitarii 1.09
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:00 pm 
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As in a modelling guide?


I'm intending that the Skitarii & AMTL will make it into a Supplement at some point.

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 Post subject: Skitarii 1.09
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:42 pm 
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I'm using,

DRM Industrial infantry as my skitarii/adepts
DRM mantagen as forge knights
a mx of old GW imperial robots and these war droids for praetorians

and finaly these support pieces as rapiers and mortars


which brings me to my real question, how do rapiers and mortars interact with transports, 1 space, 2 spaces or not at all?

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 Post subject: Skitarii 1.09
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how do rapiers and mortars interact with transports, 1 space, 2 spaces or not at all?


1 transport slot.

I'll make sure that it's added to 1.10.

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 Post subject: Skitarii 1.09
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:31 am 
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I notice that a list can count 2 supreme commanders : 1 Tech-Lord and 1 Legate.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:37 am 
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That's an oversight.

I'll push an update to deny the Skitarii access to the Legate upgrade.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:45 am 
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Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 21 Jun. 2009, 07:37 )

That's an oversight.

I'll push an update to deny the Skitarii access to the Legate upgrade.

I'd rather you worded it in such a way as to only allow 1 Supreme Commander.

The Legate in a Battle Titan is a much more useful SC and surely more likely than a Tech Lord on the battlefield? No one here is trying to have 2 SC's but this change would seriously impact many of our army lists.

When this was mentioned before you said that it was ok.  :whistle:

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 Post subject: Skitarii 1.09
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:28 am 
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Quote: (Onyx @ 21 Jun. 2009, 01:45 )

When this was mentioned before you said that it was ok.  :whistle:

If I said it was okay before, then I reckon I hadn't thought it out properly; 2 SC's available to this army would be really quite powerful.

Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 21 Jun. 2009, 07:37 )

That's an oversight.

I'll push an update to deny the Skitarii access to the Legate upgrade.

I'd rather you worded it in such a way as to only allow 1 Supreme Commander.

The Legate in a Battle Titan is a much more useful SC and surely more likely than a Tech Lord on the battlefield?


My reasoning is that a Supreme Commander for a Titan Legion would only appear when Titans are available en masse (ie: an AMTL deployment). When seconded to another force, the Legate would not be in charge of the army he was deployed in supporting, and would thus become 'only' a Veteran Princeps in that situation.

Remember also that a Skitarii Supreme Commander might not be a Tech Lord, he could easily be a chief warlord of the Skitarii or similar too, someone of many years experience commanding hundreds of thousands of Skitarii warriors, a leader of armies.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:10 pm 
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- Can titans from AM army take "Titan Upgrades" (Legate, Veteran Princeps, ...) ?

Yes.
10th Feb 09 in the Skitarii 1.07 thread.

I'm pretty sure there was another post where you went into a bit detail about this subject but I can't find right now and it's late...  :sleep:

When Titans can make up to 50% of the force then could be called en masse.
Another way to view this list could be a Titan force with infantry/tanks etc, seconded to it...

I'm not asking for 2 SC's at a time in one army, just that only one can be chosen. There are drawbacks to the Legate, not the least that it will usually be the BTS aswell as SC (never a good thing).
Please don't just rush this through without considering how much it will change the way this list is already being played (we have not noticed any real advatage in the armies effectivness with either SC).

I'm too tired to mount a more detailed argument.
Your army list E&C, you change it how you feel is right.

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 Post subject: Skitarii 1.09
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:21 pm 
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Quote: (Onyx @ 21 Jun. 2009, 16:10 )

- Can titans from AM army take "Titan Upgrades" (Legate, Veteran Princeps, ...) ?

Yes.

10th Feb 09 in the Skitarii 1.07 thread.
Aye I think I didn't consider at the time that Legate would grant 2x Supreme Commanders.

Your army list E&C, you change it how you feel is right.

Actually it's the ERC & Community army list, I'm just the humble shepherd who forms the list on the sufferance and advice of others.

My gut feeling (and reading of the background) says that Legates / Titan Legion Supreme Commanders only have direct control over their own Titans ; to have someone with authority over both Titans and Skitarii, one must find the highest authority on a Forgeworld, that being a Tech-Lord or similar.


Only having the infantry-based Supreme Commander also helps reinforce the theme of being a Skitarii army list, rather than an army of Titans-plus-extras.

The rulebook states that 'a unit is defined as much by what it cannot do, as it is by what it can do'... I would extend that rule to army lists as a whole to help guide us.




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 Post subject: Skitarii 1.09
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I'm sorry E&C, but an army list that has 50% titans is a Titans-plus-extras army no matter how you look at it.

An army using this list doesn't have to have the highest authority on a Forgeworld to lead it, just the highest authority on the battlefield that could easily be a Legate if no Tech lord wanted to be on the battlefield.

I was right about Plasma Cannons, I was right about Quake Cannons, maybe I'm right on this aswell?  :rock:

Anyway, I'm off to bed now. I'm falling asleep at the keyboard and I apologise if my tired remarks are too blunt!

Good night all.
Steve.

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I was right about Plasma Cannons, I was right about Quake Cannons, maybe I'm right on this aswell?


Not today.  :cool:

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