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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:33 am 
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Quote: (Warhead @ 10 Sep. 2008, 16:56 )

That's why they used the American M10 Wolverine TD and stuck a 17 Lb on it and called it the Achilles... Loverly.  :love:

Yes, like I said on the FireFly(Shermam w/17lber) and the Achilles as well ... The Archer was a stop-gap measure to put more SP 17 lbers with armor on the Battlefield. And again, maybe the Minotaur suffers from the same linage ?  :rock:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:46 am 
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Quote: (javelin98 @ 10 Sep. 2008, 17:49 )

From a functional rather than aesthetic perspective, rear-facing cannons work just as well as forward-facing ones.  But there are a few drawbacks to this design:

1.  No direct-fire support for infantry.  We used to train using the M109A6 Paladins from our field artillery component to create breaches in MOUT situations.  The best way to enter a building at the ground level is to have a Paladin blow a hole in one wall, since you know for sure that room is clear.  This configuration would be severely limited in that environment, no matter how good the gunbunny behind the wheel is.

2.  Resupply needs limit the shoot-and-scoot capability.  A self-propelled gun carries limited ammo onboard, and depends on a mule to resupply it, usually another tracked vehicle that can back up and use a conveyor belt assembly or derick to push rounds over to the gun.  If a mule were to do so for this thing, it would have to be from the side.

3.  Firing and loading.  The Minotaur's twin guns would have to fire simultaneously, or else in a sequential fashion with reasonable time in between.  Reason being, firing one gun would cause the vehicle to jump enough to throw off the register of the second gun, so its round wouldn't land where it was needed unless they took the time to reposition the vehicle and ensure that they are properly registered.  Plus, looking at the pics on FW, one crew loading a gun would have limited space in which to cycle the other breach, while both crews working simultaneously would be getting in each other's way.  There would be the very real possibility of someone losing a leg to the recoiling breach of one gun tube firing while trying to load the other, so sequential fire would be difficult.  So either way of operating, using two crews, is problematic.  A third possibility would be to have a single crew working both guns -- load both and then fire both simultaneously.  This would be exhausting for the cannon-cockers and would return a lower rate of fire than a crew working a single gun, since there would longer lag time between firings.  

Better solution:  Autoloading single gun tube.  But that's just my opinion.

All good points Javelin !  And I agree ! :agree:   The Minotaur must be another machination of the F/W crew after they were looking at too many pics of WWI/WWII AFVs ... :laugh: And it appears none of them have had much experience around real AFVs, save for a trip or two to Bovington ... :laugh:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:30 pm 
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It reminds me of the concept pictures floating around of the FW daemon engines, rather than some imperial design.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:47 pm 
Quote: (ragnarok @ 15 Sep. 2008, 13:30 )

It reminds me of the concept pictures floating around of the FW daemon engines, rather than some imperial design.

Sigh. Another "one day, maybe" 3D project that haunts me.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:21 pm 
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Quote: (Otterman @ 19 Sep. 2008, 08:47 )

Quote: (ragnarok @ 15 Sep. 2008, 13:30 )

It reminds me of the concept pictures floating around of the FW daemon engines, rather than some imperial design.

Sigh. Another "one day, maybe" 3D project that haunts me.

It seems like you have a lot of them.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:58 pm 
An artist's horizons are always retreating.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:32 pm 
Hey you guys! Bring your smack talk of the Minotaur here.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:59 pm 
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It smacks big time?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:01 pm 
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Lies and heresy. It's awesome! Moar cannon = moar win.

And the flared barrels remind me of battleship guns.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:02 pm 
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It does look kinda like a battleship turret, mated with an iron bridge circa the industrial revolution.




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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:34 pm 
In the US "smack talk" means "derisive talk".

As an engineer, I have an appreciation for "hey, we've got this pile of kinda junk here, and these guns here, so let's plug them together and make something that shoots." It's a nice change from the "here's the latest in giant sexy."





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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:17 am 
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Stupidest design EVER (Channeling the Comic Book Guy).

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