I suppose. I guess I'm just traumatized by all those damn orks.

In any case, whether or not it's justified, I just don't feel satisfied when I use Scorpions. I view it in the same way that others view the Baneblade, I suppose. Is it worth it's points? I guess so, but that doesn't mean I'll use it instead of fire prisms or falcons (okay, bad example, I have a weird affinity for Falcons).

Heh.  Fair enough.  It's possible I am still traumatized by the Scorpion hordes I used to face on a regular basis.  

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It would actual remove 3/5th of firepower.
1 kill would leave 4 tanks with 2 BM's and only 2 would be capable of firing.

Like the others, I would not change the main armament of the Scorpion because it is well balanced when compared with other units.

I do like the potential of AA6+ as a possibility as it feels 'right', though Eldar do have a lot of other AA anyway.

Put in pairs, Eldar SHT do make more of an impression, but suffer from reduced activation and reducing the number of BMs added. As an alternative, have you considered changing their costs? Perhaps something like:-
1x EoV @ 250
2x EoV @ 450
3x EoV @ 650 (though I am less sure of this)

As Moscovian says, combinations of EoV fill in for the different ranges and types of weapon, but are rarely fielded outside large games because of their cost.

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Eldar aren't Orks, so no discounts for Big and 'Uge Troupes... sorry!

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I think what he is trying to say that maybe there should be some sort of incentive in taking more than one per formation.

I'm new but even I can see the advantages of having two formations of one, with multiple activations and laying more blast markers, than having one formation that's tactically less flexible.

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There's already the incentive that you may take another Troupe if you merge to EoVs into one formation, isn't it?

In my admittedly limited experience of the current rules, I've been happy with the performance of the Scorpion.  I think that part of the problem is that there are some unrealistic expectations as to the types of targets it should be able to destroy.

I've found it to be very effective against enemy vehicles as it usually out ranges them, meaning it can blast them from a safe distance, and its MW ability comes in very handy for taking out such targets.  It's also useful for shooting at smaller class Titans (e.g. Warhounds) which have lost their shields.

I don't feel that it needs a boost.

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Scorpions are even nastier against transported infantry than artillery. One hit = 3 dead units. In my first game with my Eldar against my friends Space Marines i scored with a single Scorpion two hits on a Tactical Detachment which where still in their Rhinos
He never made this mistake again

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Additionally, you can often "snipe" Armoured Vehicles in mixed formation by not firing at units in cover, which infantry usually are, usually based with their tanks.

Void Spinners and Cobras get *better* when you bulk up the formation, so I don't think a "discount incentive" works for Engines of Vaul.

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Hmm, well while some EoV do get better when you use two, there are a considerable number of downsides:-

• Even at 450 points, you need to field something larger if you want to avoid the pair becoming a very vulnerable BTS, which also cuts down on the number of activations. And fewer activations mean the army is more likely to get caught 'flat-footed' by more mobile armies.
• As a pair you only add 1x BM for shooting, while two singles add two BMs and may target two enemy formations. They are just more flexible in a number of directions.
• At 500 points I am not sure a pair compares well with an Aspect Warhost in Wave Serpents or even one carried by Vampires. At 750 points they definitely do not compare well with titans which are much more survivable and have far better assault capabilities.
• Scorpions and Storm Serpents do not improve in the same way as Void Spinners and Cobras, and I suspect most people would still field two single Void Spinners rather than a pair. Equally it is very tricky to get an unharmed pair of Cobras into position to fire.

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- wrong! The current style EpicA Cobra is modelled with both a Shuriken Cannon and a Missile Launcher. If you look at the close-up on the GW site the Missile Launcher is the red pod with blue painted missiles, to the left of the main gun.