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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:20 pm 
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Quote: (Warhead @ 22 Nov. 2008, 14:10 )

Ahh!.. Hit the dirt everyone! L4's gone postal  again!
Quick, someone break the glass for Nurse Amanda's speed-dial hot line!.. ( :p Yowza!) tell her it's happening again... she'll know what to do.

Mmmm ... Amanda ...  :wow: ... I feel much better now ...  :love:

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:41 pm 
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Phew! L4 rampage averted.

Here is what I had in mind when setting up/playing EA with this army. It stands a snowballs chance in hell but it may show some more depth to my thoughts... or your sitting looking at it and shaking your head...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:49 pm 
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Genius !!!  :agree:   I think (?) :sulk: ...  :;):

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:59 pm 
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My new pic of Amanda has nuthin' on! 'Cept a spec forces hat, some gear webbing and a pair or torn knickers... Now that's combat fatigues!  :p  Huminah-Huminah! (I can't post it it's sooo naughty but not indecent)

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:01 pm 
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Well you can send it to me direct !  :blush:

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:15 pm 
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Nudge, nudge! Wink, wink! Job is done if you know what I mean.  :;):

I prefer L4's Map... it has better terrain.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:24 pm 
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Will recon next !! :wow:

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:57 pm 
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The Necron army only really works one way - Teleports and Portals. You should never actually deploy anything in your deployment zone other than the Orb, Abbatoir or occasionally Pylons.

Sure, you could stick an Eques there, but why would you? It's far more effective to come out of a portal. Remember that Necrons can't march, so anything deployed normally will spend the entire first turn doing nothing but running up the board being shot. There's no downside to coming out of a portal, it's basically the only real option for Eques as well as Phalanxes. Venators can go either way, portals or teleports.

Without using portals properly, Necrons are basically just marines on foot with crap shooting and no rhinos.

Another vote for splitting up your monoliths. I usually take 4 monoliths in 3 formations, each with an obelisk to absorb blast markers. 3 together is too many eggs in one basket, and allows the enemy to know where the attack is coming from. Sure, splitting them up costs more, but with good reason. In order to be effective, you need at least two monolith formations, however many are in each one.




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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:08 pm 
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Not entirely true.  Eques are a fine formation to deploy in your zone if you are concerned about getting enough formations on the board, activated, and engaged.  Depending on your opponent's deployment, composition, and position, and the number of portals you have built into your army list.  Eques in your deployment zone could be just the thing you need to avoid getting sandwiched in a crossfire between garrisoned and regular troops.  Or as an excellent defense of Pylons or your Harvester Engines that you cannot (or don't want to) teleport.  

I think the more you play the Necrons the more you find you can do with things other than Warriors and Monoliths. Don't feel locked into a specific style of play, especially with the new list.  Players who keep playing the 'same ole way' will find themselves on the losing side over time.

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I'd love to see a "Portal-lite" Necron army tried... with lots of beefed up Phalanxes and such... make sure you've got, at least, a Tomb Complex for things to return from and try not to get broken...

Hmmm... maybe I'll try that myself.  *laugh*

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:23 pm 
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I am a fountain head of new ideas and innovative thinking, a muse if you will... or as we say in Scotland... someone who's talking pure and utter pish!

I just thought to do what they don't expect. You never know you just might get away with it. Once anyway.

Thanks for all the comments, advice and food for thought gents.




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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:54 am 
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Quote: (Moscovian @ 22 Nov. 2008, 18:08 )

Not entirely true.  Eques are a fine formation to deploy in your zone if you are concerned about getting enough formations on the board, activated, and engaged.  

I have deployed them before in earlier versions of the list, back when they were movement 30, but at movement 25 they're just wasting a turn being shot at while trying to get somewhere useful, whereas they could have just come out of a portal.

As long as you make sure you have more portals than formations to come from them there's no reason to deploy at all.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:19 am 
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Better to have two choices though. Will he deploy or will he use a portal? Surely the more choices the more tactical options too. I'm not saying your wrong, that would be foolish. I just think it may have caught a few people out but it is a one time only force.

I must admit the idea of poring out of a portal with an entire Eques is appealing. However, why not just buy as many Flayed Ones as I can get and swamp the enemy with Teleport assaults, that might work too...

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Keeping in mind that the opponent would not know what you had in your reserves would this fool anyone? Air Superiority might be irrelevant if you dumped 8x Venator Maniples on your opponent. 12 activations too.

Infantry Phalanx - 285 points
6x Necron Warriors, 1x Lord and 1x Pariah upgrade

Venator Maniple - 225 points
6x Flayed Ones and 1x Lord

Venator Maniple - 225 points
6x Flayed Ones and 1x Lord

Venator Maniple - 225 points
6x Flayed Ones and 1x Lord

Infantry Phalanx - 285 points
6x Necron Warriors, 1x Lord and 1x Pariah upgrade
(Bog standard no thrills but solid troops. Hope to deploy from Tomb or conventional Deployment)

Venator Maniple - 225 points
6x Flayed Ones and 1x Lord

Venator Maniple - 225 points
6x Flayed Ones and 1x Lord

Venator Maniple - 225 points
6x Flayed Ones and 1x Lord

Infantry Phalanx - 285 points
6x Necron Warriors, 1x Lord and 1x Pariah upgrade
(Bog standard no thrills but solid troops. Hope to deploy from Tomb or conventional Deployment)

Venator Maniple - 225 points
6x Flayed Ones and 1x Lord

Venator Maniple - 225 points
6x Flayed Ones and 1x Lord

Necron Tomb - 75 Points
One and only Portal so MUST be protected at all costs but hey, it's indestructible.

C'Tan - 300 points
Supreme Commander

It's another quirky wreck of a list but would you want to face it?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:42 am 
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Quote: (Warhead @ 23 Nov. 2008, 08:19 )

Better to have two choices though. Will he deploy or will he use a portal? Surely the more choices the more tactical options too. I'm not saying your wrong, that would be foolish. I just think it may have caught a few people out but it is a one time only force.

Well, try it your way, but I'm sure you'll come around to my way of thinking.

Here's an idea, why not deploy one formation and bring the other through a portal, and see which is more effective?

However, why not just buy as many Flayed Ones as I can get and swamp the enemy with Teleport assaults, that might work too...


It might, but it's a high risk strategy. If the opponent gets first activation (pretty likely given Necrons' poor strategy rating), they will simply move away from the Venators and shoot them at their leisure.

It's certainly a rubbish tactic when facing a lot of skimmers...

Keeping in mind that the opponent would not know what you had in your reserves would this fool nyone?

Reserves are not kept secret. Doing so is simply unfair. The Grand Tournament scenario specifies this:

These formations are not "secret" and your opponent may inspect them at any time.




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