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AMTL v3.11
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:05 pm 
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(Evil and Chaos @ Jun. 22 2008,13:48)
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Feel free to correct me if my GCSE Latin classes put me in error. :)

ae is used to mark plurals for words ending in an "a" is it not?

Ordinatus is the nominative male noun morpheme taking the verb ordinato and making it into a noun. The word would end in an "a" and hence have an ae plural structure if it was feminine but since the word is clearly masculine (hence the us ending) then I suspect that Ordinati is correct and not Ordinatae.

But then I don't have any GCSE Latin classes.




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Re naming:
Imho redsimon refers to the correct spelling of the latin/greek words like Ordinatus and Cataphract
-us is masculine, singular.
-i is masculine, plural
-a is feminine, singular
-ae is feminine, plural

So the correct plural for Ordinatus is Ordinati and not Ordinatae.
Same goes for Cataphract. Correct spelling would be Cataphractos which is the correct greek spelling for singular and Cataphractoi the correct spelling of the plural.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphract




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(BlackLegion @ Jun. 22 2008,22:05)
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Imho redsimon refers to the correct spelling of the latin words liek Ordinatus and Cataphract
-us is masculine, singular.
-i is masculine, plural
-a is feminine, singular
-ae is feminine, plural

So the correct plural for Ordinatus is Ordinati and not Ordinatae.
Same goes for Cataphract. Correct spelling would be Cataphractos which is the correct greek spelling for singular and Cataphractoi the correct spelling of the plural.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphract

Cheers BL, that's a really helpful reply.

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While we're complaining about your language usage.

The Skitarii Demi-century? A demi-century is 50 (half a hundred) and the formation has ten units. Are you thinking of a deci-century?

Its more correct and has the added bonus of sounding all "metric" and very machinelike

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(BlackLegion @ Jun. 22 2008,14:05)
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Same goes for Cataphract. Correct spelling would be Cataphractos which is the correct greek spelling for singular and Cataphractoi the correct spelling of the plural.

In his defence the Romans used Cataphract as a loan word and incorporated it into Latin and so you see the word Cataphractii used by the Romans.

Its not a Greek word in this context.

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A demi-century is 50 (half a hundred) and the formation has ten units.


Ten times five is fifty?

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As for Cataphractes, this name was in the old Epic 40.000 army list for AM, that's why I posted it. It may be incorrect, but it was there. As for Ordinati, I cannot remember seeing a plural form, but it was certainly not Ordinatae (which would be wrong in correct Latin). Anyway, the Cataphractes or -oi name needs to be added in some form to the Superheavy Tanks as they belong to them.

EDIT: Oh, and thanks for your feedback, Evil and Chaos. :)




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At the normal 5 units per stand a demi-century works out to 50 troopers on 10 stands, I think that's where E&C came up with the name.

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If Cataphract should be latinised then singular would be Cataphractus and plural Cataphracti.
Ordinati is already plural :) The Adeptus Mechaniscus division for the Ordinati is named Centurio Ordinatus (<-singular you see?).

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Btw, it is Kataphraktoi (-os for singular) in the original form, as there is no "c" in the Greek language. :)
And like I said, the GW term may not be correct, but it is "Cataphractes".

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Ok I have a question... Warmonger Emperor class titan.

It has 8x doomstrike missiles, it is onlly allowed to fire one missile per turn....

How is this any good when games run a maximum of four turns?

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Quote: (fattdex @ 29 Oct. 2008, 00:59 )

Ok I have a question... Warmonger Emperor class titan.

It has 8x doomstrike missiles, it is onlly allowed to fire one missile per turn....

How is this any good when games run a maximum of four turns?

:sus:

Scenarios?

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Given that most games are going to be 3 or 4 turns and that the value probably should be built in for this, it does not seem very worthwhile. Maybe firing two per turn could help.

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It is a little silly, I must agree.

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Maybe it could have a new weapon?

Sextuplet turbo laser of doom

MW 14 barrage points

requires 8 turns to charge before firing!

EDIT: just realised that i posted this in the 3.11 thread (it was the last one that had anything on the topic using search) so I will post it in the 3.12 thread.




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