After Tuesdays less than impressive game I find myself wondering do I abandon my army for something else. So here is my choice - 'soft' or 'hard'. Note I'm keen to take an odd army, nice rational forces don't fit my current mood!

Soft
The original plan. Full of wonder weapons but not much else
500 SC (BTS)
050 Hydra
250 Infantry
100 Fire Support
250 Infantry
300 Vultures
200 Deathstrikes
150 Hydra
150 Hydra
150 Roughriders
250 Warhound
250 Warhound
250 Warhound
150 Thunderbolts
Fragile, not much AT at least not in the quantities throughout the game I like, and the BTS and SC are the same formation.

Hard
650 Leman Russ (BTS)
050 Hydra
500 SC
050 Hydra
200 Stormtroopers
150 Valkries
200 Deathstrikes
150 Hydra
150 Hydra
650 Reaver
250 Warhound
Harder, has the combo of Reaver and warhound, but no thunderbolts, vulnerable to teleports and few activations.

As a side note do you see you could get snipers for your mech formation and then 8 more Chimera? 12 infantry, 1 command, 2 snipers and 15 Chimera. Plus a hydra and its 700 points for an ork sized mech company! 39 AP5+ shots at 30cm.

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As a side note do you see you could get snipers for your mech formation and then 8 more Chimera?

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Hey chris

I know which list i'd prefer to face; the first one! Fragile is the key word there. The Warhounds are pretty tasty but easily broken or dispatched and one THINKS that those hydras will be a great help but a shot or two from something long ranged and hard hitting like a volcano cannon will put them out of action almost definitely...has potential though and i like the idea...more practice

The second list could be quite brutal; it's nice to see a reaver every now and then, but like you said few activations...but maybe it's time tourney play got shaken up a bit eh?

Just finishing painting my army tonight; i'm quite pleased with it thus far! Look forward to seeing you all,
R>

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Funnily enough, I'd be more than happy to face your second army.

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I see your all just playing with my mind. But is it a bluff? Have I just finished painting the Great Gargant for a reason?

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This is a tournament, right?

Bring the pain of list #2.

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Chris,I hope your not thinking of taking a Mech Co. and then adding a hydra, sniper and then 8 chimeras.

Jervis cleared this up in 2004 . The chimera upgrade option is the same as in the Marine list where the minimum needed for transporting units is allowed(no spare transport places if possible).

I'm not, I just thought it amusing

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Gah!
5 Shadowswords should see off a great gargant...  

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MMmmmmm Great Gargant

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Its far easier when we submit x in advance

Another 'hard' suggestion by email is

650 Reaver (BTS)
250 Warhound
500 SC
050 Hydra
500 Shadowswords
400 Mech
050 Hydra
200 Deathstrikes
150 Hydra
150 Hydra
100 Sentinels

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Now that is also a nasty little list and would probably beat my poor Eldar.

Discovered last night that I didn't have the models ready for the list that I was going to take. Somehow I have to fit some painting into tonight's list of jobs.

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Agh I get you, then how's about this then for a legal formation along the same lines.

Mech Co. + hydra + snipers + heavy support platoon with 3 chimeras for the upgrades .
675 points with 38 ap5+ and 2 ap4+ with more attacks having longer range and possible at shots.

Amusing to roll dice for but not to be on the recieving end of.

Whatever it is I've finished painting it Now to catch the 5:20 train!

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