So, I've played against the Tau (Both SG and FW) weekly at one point for months, yet I shouldn't have voted?

If so, please disregard my obviously baseless opinion.  

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Null vote for me.

but

I think Tau lists should be all inclusive. Restrictions on allies like Kroot, gue'vesa and Vespids is wrong.
In a ground bogged war I guess Tau would rather use some meatcover (gue'vesa), warriors (Kroot) and nasties (Vespid) then their own precious Firewarriors.
Yes, the Firewarriors will be present to give long range fire support from a more or less static gunline, which will move at highest speed if situation occurs.

So giving choice to only pick one is against Tau Ground Warfare. There is a reason they make treaties and 'conversions'! (Bolster their ranks).

Now, that was that. The request to create a separate armoured list: why oh why? I see no need to do that from a background perspective.

ps playing against a list is what can give an equal amount of experience. Luckily I can finally start to do that with the Eldar MMS rules next week!

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Strangely enough Mosc, I haven't actually voted as I'm not exactly sure which category I want to vote in as I feel I fall between a couple of categories

Blackhorizon - Regarding keeping all the alien auxilia in the list, I feel that if you put every single unit distinction into the list that perhaps the long range firepower would have to be reduced to be fair. e.g if you want CC/FF able aliens that basically means you have a strong Long Range shooting army with every basic ability of every other army rolled into one (Marines can shoot, FF, CC, good armour, but have short range shooting) which means Tau could stand off and shoot things to death before wiping them out in engagement. Not very fair.

I think reducing Alien options is a better way to keep the flavour of the Tau as it is presently - weak engagement & good shooting/maneuver. Adding all the aliens to that design means you can do everything and anything you want. This is why I proposed alien auxilia to be purchased slightly differently.

I think I lean towards a separate Alien Auxilia Tau list for the future. We can make it focussed as an alt list perhaps with a different structure. But! before that happens I'd like minimal Alien add-ons to the main Tau list(all inclusive) to restrict this "do eveything" design.

Hope that explains my views a bit better than a non vote  

Bluntly: we've effectively dropped the Gue'vesa from the list with the current points cost and formation composition for them. It's Kroot, Kroot, Kroot. No-one has any Vespid models -- they are just there to please the people who want to have everything that 40K has.

I have probably played against Tau more times than some of the Tau players here have played, yet my opinion is worthless?

This poll can't be taken as a guideline of anything at all.

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I think Moscovian realised that by now….

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Or...it could be gauging the opinions of people who have actually invested money and time in Tau models, which is a valid consideration.

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Or in other words it's saying that only those with a conflict of interests are worth considering?

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Opponents of the Tau have just as much of a conflict of interest...
Human nature is what it is.

Why not let those that have used the army have a say for now (in this particular poll anyway). Personally, I'm suprised (in a good way) to see so many Tau army owners voting (assuming the voters have done what they were asked and only voted if they own an army).

There are plenty of other threads going right now for everyone else to have a say.

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Well, I was actually going to post two polls.  One for opponents and one for the owners.  I wanted to get some feedback from the model OWNERS though because we do have a vested interest in it.  Many people have already purchased mnay hundred of dollars/pounds on the models and done up painting schemes that took hours.  If we didn't like the idea, I would think it would not be worth pursuing.

If the results were favorable for breaking things up then I was going to see what the opponents thought of it.  That would show the two groups distinctly voting on the matter and -hopefully- in support of breaking up the lists.

And I have to admit I was interested in how many people truly owned a Tau army.

Pretty much all of this is shot-to-snot though because people couldn't respect my requests.  At this point I don't care.  I have a rough draft of these broken down lists and eventually I will develop them on my own and play them with my local group.  I can't see any benefit to really participating in the Tau development any longer.  The time/frustration involved greatly outweighs my personal greater good which is to have a balanced army to play with and have fun with.

It's not like I can get anyone to play with me under the current rules anyway, so the community is out nothing.  Good luck!

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