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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:16 am 
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Thanks.

The spread-out objectives weren´t that much of a problem for the BL as the Forlorn Hopes maintained a solid grip on the farms and the central objectives throughout the game, even advancing one formation on top of the hill seperating the Eldar deploy from the farm valley.

The Eldar lacked the infantry to contest these, the Guardians were fighting for their lives on either flank and the Windriders were all drawn into the battle for the Wraithgate and ground up there.

BL actually won initiative squarely in Turn 1, but they were out of range then and it only allowed them to rush the Rangers. Also, I would rather not play any part in disembowelling a Daemon Prince of Nurgle!

We never use the Birthday rule, when we first ran into that situation years ago with my regular and only opponent back then we quickly ditched it and kept rolling dices. He´s 2 days older than me, and would go first on 363 days a year!
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Flyers: They bombed&strafed the living daylights out of the unprotected Eldar on the right. Rarely I have seen aircraft having it that good... that a lone Retinue kept fighting 3 Windrider Hosts, 1 Guardian formation and the Avatar with minimal support from a mostly out-of-range Forlorn Hope, even coming close to driving them all off in T3 is a testimony to the effectiveness of tactical air ... in an ideal environment!




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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:23 am 
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Quote: (pixelgeek @ 09 Sep. 2008, 01:10 )

Have you seen this in games? Any formation of mine that gets beat down that badly usually isn't summoning :-)

Yes, as I said commonly after rallying, and not just once or twice. It´s like seeing a souped-up SM Tactical formation you somehow managed to put 11 BM on (far from breaking sometimes), go down to 5 and 2 units suppressed after the rally.

You feel cheated  :;):

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:39 am 
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Quote: (pixelgeek @ 09 Sep. 2008, 00:10 )

Quote: (Irondeath @ 08 Sep. 2008, 15:44 )

The problem isn´t with fresh formations, what irks opponents is a freshly rallied 2 or 3-strong formation summoning 5 or 6 LDs with a lucky roll and all of a sudden turning the table on them. It is so much worse in a decimated Retinue where the Champ made it, when the 2-strong formation then goes to 10 or more it really raises eyebrows.

Have you seen this in games? Any formation of mine that gets beat down that badly usually isn't summoning :-)

The lone survivor of a formation(usually a fearless Oblitorator) is seen very often summoning a few daemons and assaulting or being a niusance factor in normal games here.

I have seen it happen dozens of times at tournaments too where it usually catches opponents by surprise.


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Quote: (Irondeath @ 08 Sep. 2008, 16:23 )

You feel cheated  :;):

Fair enough.

Is it problematic though?

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Quote: (pixelgeek @ 09 Sep. 2008, 16:10 )

Quote: (Irondeath @ 08 Sep. 2008, 16:23 )

You feel cheated  :;):

Fair enough.

Is it problematic though?

I've not found it problematic but I suspect it's like quite a few things that happen in epic.

The first few times it happens against you it feels odd/wrong but once you have countered/encountered the problem it doesn't feel as bad.

I suppose it could be put alongside being caught intermingled and having 2 big formations broken by a smaller one or being caught in a crossfire etc.

There's lots of stuff in epic that first feels wrong when done to you or when first encountered but when you know what can happen and you try to counter them they don't seem as bad.


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Quote: (dptdexys @ 09 Sep. 2008, 08:24 )

I've not found it problematic but I suspect it's like quite a few things that happen in epic.

Like Guardians assaulting out of a Storm Serpent as part of the Eldar players third activation :-)

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Quote: (pixelgeek @ 09 Sep. 2008, 17:10 )

Quote: (Irondeath @ 08 Sep. 2008, 16:23 )

You feel cheated  :;):

Fair enough.

Is it problematic though?

It is annoying in the same way that IG-formations of 1 are (the Fearless Commissar´s stand).

However, a formation of 1 has little combat power, a formation of 1 + 2D3 LDs has.

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Quote: (Irondeath @ 09 Sep. 2008, 09:25 )

However, a formation of 1 has little combat power, a formation of 1 + 2D3 LDs has.

This is the Chaos player using a feature they have paid for though.

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