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War Gryphons (3.01) vs Imperial Guard
Soren
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(Evil and Chaos @ Mar. 09 2008,16:21)
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Maybe the carapace upgrade or Hydra Tower for +50 which needs no slot?

I'm not sure I understand this.

Do you mean that Ordinatus Minoris should be allowed to take the Carapace Multi-Lasers upgrade?

I would allow them a new upgrade. A plain Hydra cannon placed anywhere on them for +50 pts (without taking up the weapon slot). Looks like a simple field upgrade which needs not much place and makes sense as it is already void shielded and so the vulnerable cannon cannot explode with the first shot.

At least tactical it makes sense. You can place hydras on stationary quad plaforms or on chassis with ease, why not on minoris? Makes em quite expensive but offers some protection.




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I could see the appeal with a Hydra turret up-grade to an Ordinatus, but this would allow the AMTL to provide a very effective AA curtain over their forces with 3 Minoris.

I would definately play 3 with Volcano Cannons & Hydra turrets for 275pts each and that makes me think that they would be too good.

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Allowing AA weapon mounts on anything other than a battle class titan would further damage the need to field one (battle titan)in an army and make warhound heavy lists even more viable.
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Soren
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Turret for +75? It?s better than the Multilaser upgrade. for 300 your Volcano cannon minoris will get quite expensive to field 3 of them.

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It?s better than the Multilaser upgrade


You pay a premium for the multi-laser upgrade as it doesn't take up a weapon slot.

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It?s good to pay more for it. So the Hydra for 75 would be an idea. +25 more than guard because you need no weapon slot

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Guys, dptdexys is right! The question is not whether it can be done, but rather whether it should be done; and the impact on army list composition of providing such a "no-brain" option.

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Agreed this is also of concern.

Personally, I think that allowing Ordinatae to mount the relatively weak Carapace Multilasers as if they were a Titan wouldn't be a terrible thing; They are very slow, and would only really be much good at defending themselves, especially in an otherwise-fast Warhound themed army.

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(Evil and Chaos @ Mar. 12 2008,13:39)
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Personally, I think that allowing Ordinatae to mount the relatively weak Carapace Multilasers as if they were a Titan wouldn't be a terrible thing;

I think allowing "Carapace" Multi-lasers to the Ordinati would be fine and in keeping with AM design philosophy.

There slow speed does a lot to prevent a "flak rush" with them.

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mhm but 30cm is a bit small with a speed of 15cm. You cannot cover anything with it. Even some bombers can shoot at 45cm with their weapons and your AA is rendered useless. Not speaking of price and power. For Titans I see them apropriate, but for the small crawling Minoris? I don?t know.




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