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Which aircraft is best at what?
The_Real_Chris
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:47 am 
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Please say in which order of ability the following aircraft should come.
First off interception - how good are they are blowing aircraft out of the sky when attacking/intercepting/flying escort?
This is I think a combination of speed, manoverability, sensors, racial ability and firepower.

Second, how likely when flying something like a bombing mission would they be of getting hits with defensive weapons on attacking planes?
This is I think a factor of firepower and whether or not it can fire defensively in the first place!

Third, how tough is the plane? That is when attacked who would be the first to go down?
This is I think a factor of armour/construction, speed, manoverability and racial ability.

For Example I reckon the Eldar would have the best attack/intercept whatever. No defensive fire - they would simply attack! And finally would be one of the toughest, not on par with a dedicated bomber, but better than any other fighter.

The candidates are
Imperial PDF worthies
Imperial Thunderbolt (Heavy Fighter model)
Imperial Thunderbolt (Fighter Bomber model)
Imperial Lightning (Air Superiority Fighter model)
Imperial Lightning Strike (Fighter Bomber model)
Imperial Fury (Long Range Interceptor)
Imperial Marauder (Fighter Bomber model)
Imperial Marauder (Bomber model)
Imperial Marauder Destroyer (Night Bomber model)
Imperial Starhawk (Long Range Bomber)
Space Marine Thunderhawk
Tau Barracuda
Tau Tigershark & A X 10
Tau Orca
Eldar Nightwing
Eldar Darkstar Interceptor
Eldar Phoenix
Eldar Eagle Bomber
Eldar Vampire
Ork Fighter Bomber
Ork Bomber
Ork Lander
Chaos Hellblade
Chaos Swiftdeath
Chaos Helltalon
Chaos Doomfire
Tzeentch Doomwing
Tzentch Firelord

So what do you reckon, in which order and have I missed any?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:19 pm 
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You forgot the Manta Missile Destroyer (and technically the AX-1-0), a crucial part of any Tau planetary incursion - and ideal for an Air War planetary assault scenario.

The SM Landing Craft would suit, also - if you have room for the Ork Landa, it's only fair...

As BFG attack craft go, if Starhawks and Furies are in then Darkstars, Eagles and so forth should be in too. (Perhaps the Darkstar can use the Forgeworld Nightwing model, and if FW do an Epic scale regular or Void Dragon Phoenix, it could be the Eagle...) Plus, Sharks and Dreadclaws are possibilities, for scenarios set in high atmosphere or in space.

Plus, Xisor wil doubtless join in with the Impaler, Slavebringer and other such Dark Eldar nasties!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:11 am 
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The manta - it doesn't dogfight or bomb I thought, just hover and shoot?

And I thought the AX-10 is identically armed to the regular Tigershark in reguard to aircombat? So I reckon the stats would be fairly similar. Or has it a different missile fit?

So the above are more BFG ships? What are all the BFG attack craft?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:23 am 
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BFG-attack-Crafts:

Imperium:
Fury Interceptor
Starhawk Bomber
Shark Assault Boat

Chaos:
Swiftdeath Interceptor
Doomfire Bomber
Dreadclaw Assault Boat

Orks
Fightabommers

Eldar
Darkstar Interceptor
Eagle Bomber

Dark Eldar
?

Nekrons
None

Tyranids
No specific names for Interceptors, Bombers and Assault Boats.

Tau:
Barracuda Air Superiority Fighter
Manta Missile Destroyer

Space Marines:
Thunderhawk

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:39 am 
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Dark Eldar 'Ordnance':

-Impaler Assault Module(quite similar to the Manta...but an assault module, not a bomber...and better)
-Raven Fighter(yet not a Raptor Fighter though...)
-Razorwing Bomber
-Slavebringer Assault Boat

Note, though, there are also 'torpedo bombers' for most races, and the Orks do use assault boats, just no specific mention of a type. Perhaps the Landa can double as an assault ship in 'droves'.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:07 am 
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Craftworld Eldar 'ordnance' in BFG:

fighters: Nightwing
bombers: Phoenix
a-boats: Vampire

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:11 am 
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This is my guess for best to worse

Which is the best interceptor?
That is who is most likely to shoot at somebody else and get a hit? A combination of firepower, speed, manoverability and average pilot skill.

I reckon the following are the best to the worse (each group is a tie).

Now one question is is how to factor in armour - which would win out of a Thunderbolt (heavier armour and guns) and lightning (faster and more manoverable). Say it averages out, or weaken the thunderbolts guns and up its armour?

Eldar Darkstar Interceptor
Eldar Nightwing

Imperial Lightning (Air Superiority Fighter model)
Imperial Thunderbolt (Heavy Fighter model)
Imperial Fury (Long Range Interceptor)
Tau Barracuda
Chaos Hellblade

Imperial Lightning Strike (Fighter Bomber model)
Imperial Thunderbolt (Fighter Bomber model)
Chaos Swiftdeath

Eldar Phoenix
Chaos Helltalon
Tzeentch Doomwing
Ork Fighter Bomber

Imperial Marauder (Fighter Bomber model)
Tau Tigershark & A X 10
Imperial PDF Interceptor worthies

Space Marine Thunderhawk


And for defence? A combination of all over coverage, firepower, speed, manoverability and pilot skill.

Note planes not on here when intercepted would abort, ditch the weapons and dogfight instead (or fly on and hope they don't get hit).

Space Marine Lander
Ork Lander

Space Marine Thunderhawk
Imperial Marauder (Bomber model)
Imperial Starhawk (Long Range Bomber)
Eldar Eagle Bomber

Imperial Marauder Destroyer (Night Bomber model)
Eldar Phoenix

Imperial Marauder (Fighter Bomber model)
Tau Tigershark & A X 10
Tau Orca
Ork Bomber

Ork Fighter Bomber
Eldar Vampire
Chaos Helltalon
Chaos Doomfire
Tzentch Firestorm

Imperial PDF Bomber worthies

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Looking at the size in the Forgeworld catalogue, the Eldar Vampire Raider is alot bigger as the Eldar Phoenix bomber (just look at that price!).

I think they equal out in your criteria.

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I think size and armour equate to survivability - rather than offensive or defensive ability.

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