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Chroma	Post subject: Latest list Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:13 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:06 pm Posts: 9684 Location: Montréal, QC, Canada	I like the look of the new list, and thanks for using my Garrison idea! Not sure when I'll get a change to playtest Necrons in the near future as my hands are full of Tau and Tyranids... but I'll try!  *laugh* _________________ "EPIC: Total War" Lead Developer Now living in Boston... any EPIC players want to meet up?
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corey3750	Post subject: Latest list Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:37 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:02 pm Posts: 525 Location: Baltimore MD	It just made a whole lot of sense.   _________________ Necron Army Champion "Do not come whining to me because you are weaker than your enemy." - Alexander Corvinus
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Honda	Post subject: Latest list Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:52 am
Brood Brother Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas	Hey there! I've been reading the 4.0 list and I have a few questions: 1. Other than the warriors, what are the various formation sizes for things like Immortals, Pariah's, etc.? The list seems to infer one unit since other formation sizes are listed. Is that correct? 2. Why is the Tomb Spyder not a skimmer? Should it have Reinforced Armor? 3. Is there any reason not to take a Tomb? Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like a no brainer. 4. What was the reasoning behind limiting the Phalanx formations to a 16 count? 5. Why is a Phalanx limited to only 6 warrior units? 6. AEonic Orb: In the various flavors of Solar Flare, when the weapon fires does the "or" description mean: ? ? a) That the Solar Flare can fire as either one type or the other in any given turn ? ? b) Do you have to choose which flare type the AO carries and then that is the type of flare you shoot with for the entire 7. The only way to get a Supreme Commander is by taking a C'tan? I think that's it for now. Thanx in advance! _________________ Honda "Remember Taros? We do" - 23rd Elysian Drop Regiment
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corey3750

Post subject: Latest list Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:25 am

Brood Brother Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:02 pm Posts: 525 Location: Baltimore MD

good questions all.   1. Other than the warriors, what are the various formation sizes for things like Immortals, Pariah's, etc.? The list seems to infer one unit since other formation sizes are listed. Is that correct? Immortals, Pariahs, and Wraiths are upgrades, and are therefore added to the formation for which they are bought.  They don't get formations of their own. 2. Why is the Tomb Spyder not a skimmer? Should it have Reinforced Armor?

It should be a Skimmer.  Their reinforced armor is there for a variety of reasons.  But the basis of it is because of the conversion of it from it's 40k stats.  Monstrous creatures are generally translated as either AV, or WE.  Usually with RA.  But it also has to do with justifying their high cost.  The high cost is important in making them a tougher choice.
3. Is there any reason not to take a Tomb? Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like a no brainer.
If your scenario doesn't have objectives.
You don't have a spare 75 points.

It's the same for the Eldar really.  If you have the points, it's a pretty important pick.
4. What was the reasoning behind limiting the Phalanx formations to a 16 count?
That's a hold over from when you could have REALLY big formations, and I just keep forgetting to delete it.  You can't make a larger than 16 unit formation, so you can just ignore that.
5. Why is a Phalanx limited to only 6 warrior units?
I noticed that in 40k there is really very little difference between a basic marine, and a basic warrior.  Just abilities, point cost and wargear.  So, I decided that it would be easier to balance the list if the formation size and cost was fixed.  I could use tactical marines as a baseline, and work from there.
6. AEonic Orb: In the various flavors of Solar Flare, when the weapon fires does the "or" description mean:

    a) That the Solar Flare can fire as either one type or the other in any given turn
    b) Do you have to choose which flare type the AO carries and then that is the type of flare you shoot with for the entire

It can fire in either mode in a given turn.  Just like the Basalisk.
7. The only way to get a Supreme Commander is by taking a C'tan?

Correct.

It's about trade offs.  If you take a Harvester Engine, you can't take a C'tan in a GT scenario.  So you get a powerful unit, that is your most expensive formation (but also toughest), but you give up the option of having a Supreme Commander.

I've considered making a "superior" Tomb Lord.  But I'll really need more test data.

I just played a game tonight, where that came into play.  I'll write up a battle report as soon as I have a chance.