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Post subject: epeldar files?  Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:35 pm |
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Okay, I found it. It is on page 18, section 1.8.4 Special Rule Terrain Effects. Infantry in open ground get a 5+ cover save when on Overwatch. Interestingly, this could lead to different tactics for IG troops. Move them up and then go into overwatch just for the save. Not good for any kind of assault, but usefull as a blocking force for your artillery.
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:01 pm |
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 3:01 am |
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But, without cover, that is exactly what you get with an IG infantry company...lots of dead bodies.  
Btw, I was simply exploring a tactic to protect your precious, expensive artillery company in a 3000-5000 point game. An infantry company on overwatch, with a RR formation and or a sentinel formation would do the trick very well, against most threats against your artillery. (Again, assuming no cover, of course.)
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 6:13 am |
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Well if you have not figured it out, yet ... I always try to use cover and concealment !
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 1:06 pm |
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But what if you don't have any availible cover? Without cover, going into overwatch is an interesting option.
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 3:07 pm |
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It my be your only option other than "standing" in the open ! 
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 8:31 pm |
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Hi!
The cover in open ground is suppose to represent infantry laying prone, using nooks and crannies in the terrain that are not apparent on a level gaming tabletop.
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 10:24 pm |
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Well, back to the original thought of this post, if you give an infantry unit with no ranged weapons an additional First Strike attack, combined with the 5+save if they are in the open (course, if they are under cover, they more than likely have a save anyways) may very well prove to be too powerfull a rule. This one will have to be playtested, probably in the next Epic game we play.
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 2:43 am |
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Well let us know how it turns out I/drax. But we will continue to use infantry on Fire Fire orders get cover mod, as in SM1. For the reason Primarch and I stated earlier ...
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 3:54 am |
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Hi!
I always that that the SM1 rules worked best in that regard. I used a modification of that for heresy as well.
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 4:04 am |
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We did too ... as a former Grunt it made too much sense and was "realistic".
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 2:49 pm |
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Remember, this 'house' rule would only be for infantry formations without any shooting attacks, ie, assault formations. The situation that brought the whole discussion about was a formation of Eldar facing Tyranids who went into overwatch. The game bogged when we didnt know what to do about that. The Eldar, as I have said in other posts, do not seem to be a very good opponent for the nids, as the infantry formations wanted to engage (BAD BAD IDEA vs Nids!)and the armor wanted to simply pop up and shoot. Anyhow, this house rule would give Eldar some chance at survival vs nids. Maybe we will restrict its use to Eldar only, don't know.
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 3:11 pm |
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Well bottom line, as in SM1, Infantry stands on First Fire/Overwatch should get a cover bonus ... of some sort ...
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:58 pm |
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Hello to you all,
Just before the old specialist forums went down, I opened a thread asking the same thing 
Can someone direct me to the latest biel-tan pdf? I've been told they're going to appear on the sepcialist games website, but I can only find the ulthwe, saim-hann and alaitoc files, whch all refer to the biel tan ones!
I don't know if it's allowed, but if it is, can someone mail them on martin_dieleman@zonnet.nl?
thanks in advance!
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Post subject: epeldar files? Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:32 pm |
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I have emailed you about the files.
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