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Author: | themummra [ Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
Hey all, I just recently got access to some Epic 40k miniatures and proxies so my gaming group is finally gearing up to get into Epic. We have been 40k/other miniature systems gamers for awhile and are very excited for this 6mm adventure. We are looking at building some starter lists to try out, as well as have intro armies to get more players interested in the future. Could we get some help with some good beginner lists if 1000-1500 The four we were thinking of was: an Astartes, Cultist+Alpha Legion, Necrons, and |
Author: | themummra [ Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
Rules Question: Can I take upgrades more than once for a formation? I am looking at the Alpha Legion list to build my Cult List and it says Hydra as an Upgrade for Cultist Coven. Under the Hydra Upgrade it says add 1 Hydra for +50 pts. Can I do this more than once for that formation? Also, if a formation says 12 Cultist Units and 1 Icon Character, does that 1 Character go on one of 12 Cultist Stands? Or is it a Character stand? Also, 3 Chaos Hounds. Would that be 3 units of 5 each since they are infantry? |
Author: | kyussinchains [ Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
normally if you can take multiple upgrades it will be worded "add 1-3 upgrades for x points each" so in this case it's not applicable and you can only take a single hydra characters are upgrades to stands, so the cultist formation is 12 stands, one of which has a character upgrade 3 chaos hounds would be 3 stands of between 3-7 models |
Author: | StevekCole [ Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
Great to hear you’re getting into epic. You can find various minigeddon lists here https://sites.google.com/site/epicarmag ... mes-201503 |
Author: | Dave [ Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
If you haven't played and don't have access to someone who has I'd recommend starting with the training scenarios. You can run through 2-3 in a few hours and it lets you figure out the rules pretty easily. Unless the list says you can't (like Codex or Steel Legion) you can. I'm guessing no on the Alpha Legion Hydra. Read the Character special rule, your question is answered right in the first paragraph of it. http://www.tp.net-armageddon.org/tourna ... characters Same for infantry stands. http://www.tp.net-armageddon.org/tourna ... unit-types |
Author: | gunslinger007 [ Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
themummra wrote: We are looking at building some starter lists to try out, as well as have intro armies to get more players interested in the future. Could we get some help with some good beginner lists if 1000-1500 The four we were thinking of was: an Astartes, Cultist+Alpha Legion, Necrons, and I'd highly recommend including Steel Legion in there. They're a great beginner army that has limited special rules to remember, limited upgrades necessary to make formations effective, and have a straight forward and more forgiving play style. That doesn't mean the army has a low potential though, and can still ruin someone's day when it's played well. Plus, that would give you two Imperium and two xenos/chaos. However the most important I suppose to to chose armies that people in your group will get excited about! Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk |
Author: | themummra [ Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
Thanks for the replies so far! Epic is going to be a great new addition to my hobby. Put together 2 lists, how do they look to someone who has played? 1000 POINTS Alpha XX Legion (v1.73) ================================================== CULTIST COVEN [300] 11 Cultists, 1 Daemon Prince w. Wings, Daemonic Icon CULTIST COVEN [200] 11 Cultists, 1 Cultist w. Daemonic Icon CULT RIDERS [175] 6 Rough Riders, 1 Daemonic Icon CULT HYDRAS [175] 3 Hydras, 3 Chaos Hounds LESSER DAEMON POOL [150] 10 Lesser Daemon 1000 POINTS Steel Legion (NetEA Army Compendium v2014) ================================================== INFANTRY COMPANY [300] Commander, 12 Infantry, 2 Ogryns ARTILLERY COMPANY [600] 9 Manticore SENTINEL SQUADRON [100] 4 Sentinels |
Author: | themummra [ Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
Two More Lists: The goal of all 4 would be balance against each other and ease of play > competitiveness (need to find a good monolith and obelisk model) 1000 POINTS Necrons (NetEA Tournament Pack 2013) ================================================== INFANTRY PHALANX [225] Necron Lord, 6 Warriors INFANTRY PHALANX [225] Necron Lord, 6 Warriors EQUES MANIPLE [350] 6 Heavy Destroyers MONOLITH MANIPLE [200] 2 Obelisk, Monolith 1000 POINTS Tau Vior'la (1.2 Revisted) ================================================== FIRE WARRIOR CADRE [300] 8 Fire Warrior units, 3 Piranha FIRE WARRIOR CADRE [275] 8 Fire Warrior units, Broadside Battle Suit PATHFINDER GROUP [175] 2 Pathfinder units, 1 Devilfish, 2 Tetras KV128 STORMSURGE FORMATION [250] 2 KV128 Stormsurge Battlesuit units |
Author: | GlynG [ Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
Minigeddon has a max formation points cost of 400 (there are also modified formations to allow smaller versions of normally larger formations) – see here https://sites.google.com/site/epicarmag ... minigeddon I’d hold off on Necrons as a beginner till you all know what you’re doing more. To be played well they require and advanced grasp of the rules and tactics to use well or defend against as their tactics involve a lot of teleporting anywhere on board and using portals to redeploy. Orks are the other classic beginner army if you have access to some. Space Marines a bit less so oddly, as they have more special rules and finesse to use optimally. |
Author: | Dave [ Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
You rarely see arty companies ina 3k game, but that list would likely dominate the 4. There's nothing to stop it from firing 8 or 10 BP a turn aside from maybe something coming out ofnthe Monolith. Even then, it's 50/50 that it will get to go first and overwatch. |
Author: | themummra [ Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
I forgot about the minigeddon specific lists! I'll retool the lists a bit. Unfortunately I don't have access to Orks yet. |
Author: | themummra [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
Updated Tau List (one of the players wanted t play 40k tau but never got the chance, so he's playing it in 6mm). Has some infantry, support, and a fast unit for capture. Should I switch one heavy support for a Recon (tetra/piranha unit)? Tau Third Phase Expansion (6.8 Approved) ================================================== FIRE WARRIOR CADRE [275] 8 Fire Warriors, Ethereal STEALTH GROUP [225] 6 XV15 Stealth Units BROADSIDE GROUP [300] 6 XV88 Broadsides ARMOUR SUPPORT GROUP [200] 4 Hammerhead Gunships (Ion- or Fusionhead) |
Author: | themummra [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:43 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
Updated Steel Legion: May need to have a little more heavy weaponry to take on the Tau? Given the lists will change and grow as we actually play, I'm aiming to get some decent, simple lists painted to get it started. MECHANISED INFANTRY COMPANY [400] Commander, 12 Infantry, 7 Chimera, TANK COMPANY [400] 6 Leman Russ SENTINEL SQUADRON [100] 4 Sentinels SENTINEL SQUADRON [100] 4 Sentinels |
Author: | themummra [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
Blood Angels: DEATH COMPANY [375] 4 Death Company units, plus Transport, Death Company Dreadnought ASSAULT [300] 6 Assault units, Captain PREDATORS [325] 4 x Predator Annihilators, Vindicators |
Author: | themummra [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Minigeddon/Lower Point Lists for 4 New Players |
Updated Cultist (Alpha Legion List Used) CULTIST COVEN [330] 11 Alpha Legion Cultists, 1 Alpha Legion Daemon Prince w. Wings, Daemonic Icon, 6 Light Transports CULTIST COVEN [230] 11 Alpha Legion Cultists, 1 Alpha Legion Cultist w. Daemonic Icon, 6 Light Transports CULT HYDRAS [175] 3 Hydras, 3 Chaos Hounds CULT HYDRAS [175] 3 Hydras, 3 Chaos Hounds LESSER DAEMON POOL [90] 6 Lesser Daemon |
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