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How to deal with an IG Artillery Company?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:41 am 
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I have a game coming up against IG. I will be playing as SM. Without posting the lists we are playing I know this will be hard but I have a major concern in the upcoming battle - How do I deal with 9 Basilisk with a Hydra??

Taking them out by air isn't an option - we both have good air cover

Teleporting termies in at the start has never worked well for me (they tend to get wiped off the board before doing anything useful)

SM don't have any artillery that can reach across the board in turn one

Suggestions/thoughts welcome!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:55 am 
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Termies x2 ? :-)

Or use the termites to take out the AA then bust them open with a thunderhawk on retain.

Or drop pods...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:06 am 
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I had considered 2 x Termies but was concerned about leaving them at the enemies side of the table for the first turn. It would probably lead to their destruction.

Drop pods also a good call, but tying up 200 points for Spacecraft in a 3K game seems a waste?

Thunderhawk may be the best option......

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:46 am 
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A spacecraft for marines is a good option for both the droppers but also the MW barrage which if lucky can do a lot of damage to an army.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:58 am 
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yeah, spacecraft + podding devs is really nasty against IG, back it up with some warhound alpha strikes and you're in a good position

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Lets presume that Spacecraft is not an option. Alternatives?

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why is the spacecraft not an option? you don't actually have to own the model.....

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alpha striking warhounds coupled with a terminator air assault...?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:26 am 
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Its not that I cant/wont field a Spacecraft, I was looking for alternative :)

Good advice guys. I teleported in my last game but the Termies got wiped out after doing little damage so I guess I am cautious.

Hmm, starting to come round to air assault...

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Perhaps another Marine list is to your liking? We've got a few different themes available (tank, mech inf, spec ops, siege) so one of them might scratch your itch better since it seems you're chaffing a bit with the codex list which is really built are air assault.

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Berkut666 wrote:
Teleporting termies in at the start has never worked well for me (they tend to get wiped off the board before doing anything useful)


How did that happen? You're very likely to win strategy against IG, and sustaining should net you 4 hits on average with 3 kills against Basilisks or 4 against Manticores. Even if three are dead you've turned a company into a battery after suppression. Depending on placement the Hydra might be suppressed as well, allowing you to air assault with the Terminators in support. At 700 points, it's likely a BTS and a priority target.

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Actually I am probably being a bit hard. I have used it a few times to great effect but last time they teleported in, assaulted a artillery battery, only killed two of them due to poor dice then got wiped of the face of the board in one fowl swoop by a baneblade after I failed the next activation. The dice gods where against me that day

In the above battle, I only won the initiative once and then failed to retain the initiative. I got stomped.

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Berkut666 wrote:
In the above battle, I only won the initiative once and then failed to retain the initiative. I got stomped.


Wow, thats incredible bad luck and shouldn't happen nine times out of ten.

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Berkut666 wrote:
In the above battle, I only won the initiative once and then failed to retain the initiative. I got stomped.


Wow, thats incredible bad luck and shouldn't happen nine times out of ten.



Haha Yeah it was back luck. The dice gods failed me that day. I cant even blame loaded dice as they were my own!! All in though it was still a close game in victory condition terms. Watching Dev's do a sustained fire and only kill on IG that had no save is very disheartening. Its where my fear comes from for the next game I guess.

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