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 Post subject: Miraculous Intervention Experimental Army List
PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:03 pm 
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I've been thinking about this Army List for a few months now, but only very recently I've decided to write it down. It's yet another Imperial army list, of which there are many, but what I dislike about most of the Imperial lists is that they enforce specific style of play. I am hoping that this list is more flexible and allows for both defensive and aggresive playstyle. I think that LoD and Living Saint are also nice touches. However I am still not sure about the second - if it is in harmony with the mass battle spirit of epic.

Also I have to admit that the final shape of this list was influenced by the Gathering Storm books and current WH40k fluff progression.

Please let me know what you think. I'm open to comments and criticism.

EDIT: Added v0.2. Changes:
- Legion of the Damned formation loss doesn't count for BTS,
- Removed Resolve formation. Exorcists are no longer available. Repressoror and Immolatoras are only available as transport for Mission formation.
- Removed upper restriction for Mission formation,
- Added Redmptionist formation,
- Sisters of Battle section was renamed to Ecclesiarchy,
- It takes one Ecclesiarchy formation to deploy one Black Templars formation,
- Living Saint formation was removed and added again as a character-upgrade to Mission and Choir formations. Rules has been completely rewritten,
- Vindicators were removed from the list - both, formation and upgrades,
- Land Speeders has been added as an upgrade to Assault formation,
- Thunderhawk cost has been increased to 250 from 200 points,
- Drop pods and spacecrafts has been removed from the list,


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 Post subject: Re: Miraculous Intervention v. 0.1- Experimental Army List
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:10 pm 
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Conceptually I like it. I think that the core should be some Guard formations and you then get to bring in SOB and a Crusading Chapter support elements in limited amounts. I'd direct it to be the most iconic elements from the elites. With this you could end up with a very good representation of something like St Sabbat's Crusade for instance. I can't say if it would be balanced in tournament play but could be amazeballz for narrative play.

I would suggest you take a read through the Sarns Expanse Crusade list for ideas as well. One of the big problems pulling in forces from all over in EA is that you tend to end up with no weaknesses. Marines with heavy plentiful artillery and lots of RA tanks backed up with SoB FF support murder traps and the like. Ya know?

Looking forward to seeing where this goes. It certainly is interesting!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:48 pm 
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Black Templars and Sororitas, it's certainly consistently fluffy given that the BT are amongst the only marines that the ecclesiarchy actually like.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:44 pm 
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jimmyzimms wrote:
Conceptually I like it. I think that the core should be some Guard formations and you then get to bring in SOB and a Crusading Chapter support elements in limited amounts. I'd direct it to be the most iconic elements from the elites. With this you could end up with a very good representation of something like St Sabbat's Crusade for instance. I can't say if it would be balanced in tournament play but could be amazeballz for narrative play.

I would suggest you take a read through the Sarns Expanse Crusade list for ideas as well. One of the big problems pulling in forces from all over in EA is that you tend to end up with no weaknesses. Marines with heavy plentiful artillery and lots of RA tanks backed up with SoB FF support murder traps and the like. Ya know?

Looking forward to seeing where this goes. It certainly is interesting!


Thank you for the opinion. As I stated there is abundance of Imperial army lists, and many(most?) of them are focussed on IG and only one of them includes SoB. I deliberately haven't included Guard formations, because in that shape this list should have been called "Cadia's Defenders" and that it turn would make it more "defensive", so to say. The list is intended to be a casual list more than a torunament list that's for sure. Anyway, I will look into St Sabbat's Crusade anyway.

Not only I have went through Saranes Exp. Crusade, but I own a 2k pts. army of it (mostly painted). :) But, yeah, when I am thinking about it now, maybe I shouldn't put Vindicators and limit the Land Raiders or/and remove some air support. AND maybe rework the restrictions.

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You're on the right path here. I forgot to mention that them being BT not just generic Marines is a good choice for this thing. We're looking at an ecclesiarchy crusade with holy saints and what not. Just need to tone down the BT a wee bit (or bump prices for a more elite aspect). For a more "regular" crusade one Sarns more than handles that.

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The list has been reworked. It has deviated from the orginal idea a little bit. Maybe in the end it will evovle more into a "crusade" army list. The complete list of changes can be found in the first post

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Perhaps LotD should not be able to claim objectives but can contest?

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jimmyzimms wrote:
Perhaps LotD should not be able to claim objectives but can contest?


That's the way it is.

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However it can’t perform
March action, capture objectives (but it may contest them) and must deploy by Teleport special rule.
Destroying this formation does not grant opponent BTS nor VPs in case of tiebreak


The wording is lame a little bit. I will fix that in the next iteration.

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ahhh misread on my mobile. Opps! ;D
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