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Blood Axe List
nealhunt	Post subject: Blood Axe List Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 7:06 pm
Purestrain Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm Posts: 9617 Location: Nashville, TN, USA	Hey guys.  Over last weekend, I posted a list for the Blood Axe clan on the EA Forum.  I would love to hear some feedback from you guys.  I can also provide a .doc file if anyone would like a copy. http://www.specialist-games.com/epic/fo ... IC_ID=6391 As a quick teaser: ============= DESIGN NOTES: The goal of writing a Blood Axe list was to create an army list that is Orky in feel, yet different enough from the core list to give it a distinct flavour and feel. The following were the major ideas that I wished to include: 1) Looted imperial vehicles. I believe this is mandatory for a proper Blood Axe list. 2) In keeping with their background of raiding from spacecraft, I felt there needed to be a substantial Planetfall potential. 3) Create a new concept for Ork armies similar to a 20th century Air Assault force that operates with rapid, helicopter insertion into dangerous areas. _________________ Neal
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CyberShadow	Post subject: Blood Axe List Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 4:44 pm
Swarm Tyrant Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2003 6:22 pm Posts: 9338 Location: Singapore	Hi. I noticed this fairly quickly, and I have been looking for the time to go into it in more detail. One thing that I am not sure about is your theory that the Blood Axes would be a 'drop' force. I have not heard this before. Also, I am not convinced that any amount of Ork tinkering would be able to make a Vindicator (or Hellhound) into a Flak Wagon!    I understand that there are there mainly because they dont have transport, but you have no actual Gunwagons in the force. Is this right, or an I just confused? I must admit, that my conception of a Blood Axe force is extremely similar to the standard Orks, with the addition of Imperial-type vehicles and a few more Stormboyz. I am sure that there is an easier way of dealing with the vehicles, either simply having a seperate stat that covers five of six different vehicle types (Predator-type, Leman Russ-type), or applying a standard modifier to the basic normal stat line (for example +5 points, -1 armour, +1 firefight, all ranges reduced by 15cm to a minimum of 15cm, +5cm speed) and then limiting exaclty which vehicles can be purchased (so no Shadowswords for example). _________________ https://www.cybershadow.ninja - A brief look into my twisted world, including wargames and beyond. https://www.net-armageddon.org - The official NetEA (Epic Armageddon) site and resource.
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nealhunt

Post subject: Blood Axe List Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:15 pm

Purestrain Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm Posts: 9617 Location: Nashville, TN, USA

Also, I am not convinced that any amount of Ork tinkering would be able to make a Vindicator (or Hellhound) into a Flak Wagon!   I posted a typo.  Either no one else caught it or they realized what it meant and ignored it.  It should have been: Gunwagons Razorbacks Vindicators Hellhounds Predator I went and edited the thread. With respect to the standard Ork-conversion modifiers, I considered that, but then that would mean making point costs for all the different variations.  At the very least it would require a Marine-conversion factor and an IG-conversion factor because of the different point structures for the armies, i.e. different initative, strategy and morale rules make the point conversion different.  I made up the Appendix Count-as-IG option for people who really wanted to field Imperial vehicles with minimal modification. I'm actually strongly considering gutting my entire IG force to make a Blood Axe army that could be fielded either way... One thing that I am not sure about is your theory that the Blood Axes would be a 'drop' force. I have not heard this before.

From GW's official fluff:
By means of a few working spacecraft crewed by slaves, and by infesting suitable space hulks, the Blood Axes are able to launch sporadic raids on other Ork clanz. They do this to settle old scores; to capture loot, slaves and Gretchin.

That put the drop-theme in my head and it seemed fun and different than the core Ork list.  The Drop Kan idea is one that I've had running around my head so long I can't remember if I read it in fluff, a friend made it up way back when, or my own demented imagination produced it.  I've even got a mental image of a crunched-down soup-can sort of pod, with a parachute landed haphazardly next to it.

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Are there mechanical/balance concerns or is it just the style you dislike?