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NetEA Skitarii vs Black Legion 3K

 Post subject: NetEA Skitarii vs Black Legion 3K
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:03 pm 
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Did another nvassal game with Norto trying out the NetEA Skitarii list. We've decided to do the 4 needed reports to get the list approved since it's been ages waiting to get there.
Nort took a Blacl Legion list with no suggested NC changes so the battle report would count.

Heres our lists:

Incompertus, 3000 POINTS
Gryphonne IV Skitarii Legion (NetEA v2.04 *EXPERIMENTAL*)
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SKITARII DEMI-CENTURY [475]
2 Secutor units, 8 Hypaspist units, Magos Character, Minorus with Vulcan Megabolter

SKITARII DEMI-CENTURY [375]
2 Secutor units, 8 Hypaspist units, Minorus with Corvus Assault Pod

SKITARII DEMI-CENTURY [375]
2 Secutor units, 8 Hypaspist units, Minorus with Corvus Assault Pod

ORDINATUS MINORUS [325]
2 Ordinatus Minorus, Vulcan Megabolter, Gatling Blaster

CRUSADER SCOUT MANIPLE [150]
4 Crusader Robots

COLOSSUS ASSAULT MANIPLE [250]
4 Colossus Robots

AVENGER SQUADRON [225]
2 Avenger Strike Fighters

WARHOUND TITAN [275]
Vulcan Megabolter, Plasma Blastgun

WARHOUND TITAN [275]
Vulcan Megabolter, Plasma Blastgun

WARHOUND TITAN [275]
Vulcan Megabolter, Plasma Blastgun

13TH BLACK CRUSADE BLACK LEGION (2014 Armybook Edition)
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RETINUE [425]
8 Chaos Space Marines, Obliterator, (Tzeentch), Chaos Warlord (Supreme Commander), Daemonic Pact

RETINUE [340]
8 Chaos Space Marines, (Tzeentch), Sorcerer Lord, 4 Rhino, Daemonic Pact

RETINUE [340]
8 Chaos Space Marines, (Tzeentch), Sorcerer Lord, 4 Rhino, Daemonic Pact

CHAOS TERMINATORS [360]
Chaos Lord, 5 Chaos Terminator, (Tzeentch), Daemonic Pact

BIKE COMPANY [325]
8 Chaos Space Marines Bikes, (Chaos Undivided), Chaos Lord, Daemonic Pact

CHOSEN [170]
4 Chaos Space Marine Scouts, (Chaos Undivided), Daemonic Pact, 2 Rhino

DAEMON POOL [90]
(Chaos Undivided), 6 Lesser Daemon

HELL BLADES [200]
3 Hell Blade Fighters, (Chaos Undivided)

HELL BLADES [200]
3 Hell Blade Fighters, (Chaos Undivided)

DEATH WHEEL SQUADRON [275]
(Chaos Undivided), Death Wheel

DEATH WHEEL SQUADRON [275]

Heres the initial setup. I castled up behind the protective screen of my Crusaders and a hill while Norto spread out his forces evenly over the board.


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 Post subject: Re: NetEA Skitarii vs Black Legion 3K
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:12 pm 
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TURN 1: Black Legion wins initiative.

BL1.1: Hellblades go on CAP.
S1.1: Avengers go on CAP.
BL1.2: Hellblades go on CAP.
S1.2:Hypatists by blitz goes on OW.
BL1.3: Retinue by BL Blitz goes on OW.
S1.3: Crusaders goes on OW with the help of the SC(hehe, pretty cagey start).
BL1.4: Chosen marches up the left flank.
S1.4: Warhound doubles and fires on the same chosen killing 1 rhino (2BM).
BL1.5: Retinue marches up in the middle of the board.
S1.5: Collosus robots doubles forward.
BL1.6: Bikes marches forward.
S1.6: Hypatists doubles behind mountain.
BL1.7: Deathwheel doubles forward and fires on Collosus robots for 1BM.
S1.7: Hypatists doubles forward.
BL1.8: Deathwheel doubles forward and fires on Minoris Co for 1BM.
S1.8: Minoris Co holds and fires back on Deathwheel stripping 1 shield (1BM).
BL1.9: Retinue marches forward.
S1.9: Wharhound sustains on Deathwheel stripping 1 shield (1BM).
S1.10: Warhound sustains on deathwheel for 1BM.

END PHASE:

All good with no broken units.


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 Post subject: Re: NetEA Skitarii vs Black Legion 3K
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:24 pm 
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Turn 2: Black Legion wins initiative.

BL2.1: Retinue summons 2 beatsa and engages Hypatists in Assault Pod minoris in front of them. The B2B 4 models to the minoris and trap all the Inf inside (doh!). The whole formation is wiped out for no losses to the retinue.
S2.1:Hypatists advance and fires on same retinue killing 2 beasts, 2 rhinos and 1 stand of marines (5BM).
S2.2: Collosus retains and goes on OW.
BL2.2: Deathwheel doubles and fires on warhound for 1BM.
S2.3: Warhound on left flank advances into forest and fires on chosen for 1BM.
S2.4: Avengers retains and ground attacks same chosen formation killing 2 stands and breaks the formation.
BL2.3: Retinue summons 4 flamers and doubls forward. They take 1BM from Collosus OW fire. They then fire on Warhound for 1BM.
BL2.4: Deathwheel retains with the help of the SC and engages Collosus robots. After 2 rounds of combat the Deathwheel is critted and dies. 2 robots are killed.
S2.5: Crusader robots marches and ZoC:s bikes.
BL2.5: Hellblades ground attacks warhound for 1BM.
S2.6: Minoris Co doubles and fires on retinue for 1BM.
S2.7: Warhound retains with the help of the SC and engages the same retinue wiping it out for the loss of 2 shields.
BL2.6: Retinue by BL-Blitz doubles forward.
S2.8: Hypatists doubles forward and fires on retinue killing 1 rhino (2BM).
BL2.7: Bikes marches to Skitarii blitz.
S2.9: Warhound engages retinue but gets destroyed only managing to kill 1 rhino (2BM).

End Phase:
Chose rallies.


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 Post subject: Re: NetEA Skitarii vs Black Legion 3K
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:34 pm 
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Terminators teleport in with 1BM near BTS-Hypatists
TURN 3: Black Legion win intiative (Hattrick)

BL3.1: Bikes engages BTS-Hypatists wiping the formation out (and claiming the BTS-objective) for the loss of 4 bikes. The bikes breaks.
BL3.2: Termionators retains and engages Minoris Co. They only manage to kill 1 minoris for the loss of 2 stands. Norto then rolls snake eyes and the terminators loose the combat. The remaining Minoris reaks from BM:s.
S3.1: Avengers ground attacks retinue killing 2 stands and 2 rhinos breaking the formation.
S3.2: Collosus robots tries to retain but holds and breaks.
BL3.3: Chosen marches with the help of the SC to the BL Blitz.
BL3.4: Detahwheel retains and marches to the Skitarii blitz.
S3.3: Hypatists doubles to skitarii blitz and fires on deathwheel for 1BM.
BL3.5: Hellblades fails to activate.
S3.4: Warhound doubles to objective and fires on lone broken terminator wiping it out.
BL3.6: Helblades fail to activate.
BL3.7: Retinue marches to contest both forward DtF objectives and claims the DtF objective.

Black Legion wins 2-0 (BTS & DtF) in Turn 3.


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 Post subject: Re: NetEA Skitarii vs Black Legion 3K
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:39 pm 
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Thoughts:

Damn, i missed the DtF objective. If i would have gone for one of the other ones i could have contested that one. But then Nortos retinue could have shoot on me an maybe broken me so it wasn't a sure thing either.
Very bloody game where heaps of formations died.

I think the Skitarii list struggles. Theres. far to few transport options for it and i feel i have to auto-include 3 warhounds to have a chance at manouvering enough to be able to win a game.
I think this could be helped some by exchanging the chimedons for regular chimeras for Hypatists and Sagitariis. That problem needs to be solved.
Avengers got do with some down-gunning and a point reduction of 25 points also.

So cheaper faster transports and cheaper aircraft would help this list to be better IMO.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:30 pm 
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Thanks for the report!

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No problems. Are we correct to assume that 4 reports from us would put the list forward to approval? Or do you need 6?

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We could probably push it for approval, but I need to do two more myself to hit the six total up here.

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