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Skitarii vs Imperial Guard

 Post subject: Skitarii vs Imperial Guard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:35 pm 
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Imperial Guard Trailing
Make Super heavy Tank Co with 3 Baneblades cost 425 points. +25 points for each upgrade to Shadowsword. +10 points for each upgrade

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Steel Legion (NetEA Army Compendium v2014)
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REGIMENTAL HQ [550]
Supreme Commander, 12 Infantry, 7 Chimera, Hydra

SUPER-HEAVY TANK COMPANY [425]
3 Baneblade

SUPER-HEAVY TANK COMPANY [425]
3 Baneblade

DEATHSTRIKE MISSILE BATTERY [200]
2 Deathstrike Missile Launchers

SUPER-HEAVY TANK PLATOON [200]
Shadowsword

SUPER-HEAVY TANK PLATOON [200]
Shadowsword

FLAK BATTERY [150]
3 Hydra

FLAK BATTERY [150]
3 Hydra

THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150]
2 Thunderbolts

WARHOUND TITAN [275]

WARHOUND TITAN [275]


Gryphonne IV Skitarii Legion (NetEA v2.04 *EXPERIMENTAL*)
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SKITARII DEMI-CENTURY [600]
2 Secutor units, 8 Hypaspist units, Magos Character, 10 Chimedons, Hydra

SKITARII DEMI-CENTURY [500]
2 Secutor units, 8 Hypaspist units, 10 Chimedons, Hydra

ORDINATUS MINORUS [400]
2 Ordinatus Minorus, Laser Blaster, Volcano Cannon

ORDINATUS MINORUS [350]
2 Ordinatus Minorus, 2 Gatling Blaster

COLOSSUS ASSAULT MANIPLE [250]
4 Colossus Robots

WARHOUND TITAN [300]
Turbo-laser Destructor, Plasma Blastgun

WARHOUND TITAN [300]
Turbo-laser Destructor, Plasma Blastgun

WARHOUND TITAN [300]
Turbo-laser Destructor, Plasma Blastgun

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 Post subject: Re: Skitarii vs Imperial Guard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:41 pm 
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Turn 1
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Turn 1

Skitarii Win
Skitarii - Single minorus with VC and LB and crit a baneblade
Guard - Sustain deathstrikes with the help of the SC and destroy gatling blaster and left the volcano on 1 DC
Skitarii - Double warhound shoot reg HQ taking down 3 chimeras
Guard - Tbolts ground attack warhound for a blast
Skitarii - Collossus Robots march behind the rock
Guard - Marshal baneblades to move and remove blasts
Skitarii - Fail to activate Magos mech hypaspist and move and take blast
Guard - Double Hydras behind middle hill
Skitarii - March mech hypaspist
Guard - Double hydras killing 2 skitarii stands
Skitarii - Double Gatlings and kill 2 hydras breaking them
Guard - Failed to activate shadowsword clearing blasts
Skitarii - Warhound doubles killing 1 hydra breaking them
Skiatrii - Marches warhound to cover
Guard - Warhound singled and striped shield and critted warhound down to 1DC
Guard - Doubles shadowsword and kills warhound
Guard - Reg HQ fails to activate and clears blasts
Guard - Double warhound and targets mech skitarii killing 1 chimeradon

Skitarii - Rallied warhound and volcano minorus
Guard - rally hydras

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 Post subject: Re: Skitarii vs Imperial Guard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:42 pm 
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Guard win roll off
Guard - Baneblades single with help of the SC
Skitarii - Double warhound wiping out death strikes
Guard - Warhound advanced and shot warhound for BM
Skiatrii - Minorus sustain on baneblades doing a DC on each
Guard - Tbolts fail to activate and stand down
Skiatrii - Overwatch collossus
Guard - Double and shoot warhound to break it
Skiatrii March Magos mech hypaspist formation
Guard - Single Shadowsword on Magos formation
Skitarii - Minorus Volcano singles to miss baneblades
Guard - Shadowsword sustain on the magos mech hypaspist formation killing a chimeradon
Skitarii - Warhound doubles and takes off the single hydra
Guard - Double baneblades and strip shields off single minorus
Guard - Failed to activate reg HQ

Guard - rallied hydras
Skiatrii rallied mech company

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 Post subject: Re: Skitarii vs Imperial Guard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:44 pm 
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Guard single warhound shot up magos mech hypaspist company
Guard - retained sustain shadowsword and took a DC off a warhound
Skitarii - Warhound doubles and kills a hydra breaking them
Guard - March Reg HQ on to TnH
Skiatrii - Sustain volcano for 1 DC on baneblades
Guard - Double Baneblades and shoot gatling minorus citted one and breaks them
Guard - Retains and breaks mech hypaspist company
Skiatrii - Failed to activate Magos mech company
Guard - Single shadowsword and blew up warhound
Skitarii - March collosuss to blitz
Guard - Double baneblades to wipe out mech company
Guard - Tbolts wiped out broken minorus.

Skitarii Warhound rallies

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 Post subject: Re: Skitarii vs Imperial Guard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:47 pm 
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Skitarii - Minorus Volcano double and shoot baneblades for a DC and breaks them
Guard - Warhound singles and shoots Magos company killing 2 skitarii
Skitarii - Marshal Magos company and move on TnH
Guard - Double Banes Blades and shoot collossus
Guard - Retain Tbolts ground attack Collosus for a blasts
Skitarii - Fail to activate robots and break
Guard - Shadowsword sustained on mago company
Skitarii - Fail to activate warhound and regroup
Guard - Warhound doubles and shoots minorus volcano for a blast


Countback
Win to guard on points. Both with TnH
Skitarii - 500 points


Baneblades are solid but dont feel like a threat. Just solid at holding ground i feel. Seams alright to me to far.
Ill keep playing the skitarii to slow work them out. Do feel they need some cheaper aircraft.
Guard - 1550

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 Post subject: Re: Skitarii vs Imperial Guard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:01 pm 
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As Norto mentioned i tried out cheaper Baneblade Companies. The discount of 150 points gave me an extra activation in the form of thunderbolts.

With this cost i could see them bring used more in lists. 3 baneblades on OW on the guard players blitz won't be an easy target to shift.

The Skitarii list have to many expensive units and would really need access to a cheaper transport choice. The EpicUK list has Gorgon for 75p, maybe they could be used as a 100p upgrade?

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 Post subject: Re: Skitarii vs Imperial Guard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:18 pm 
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Thanks for the report! Skitarii won't be getting cheaper transports though, that's one of the core drawbacks the army is designed around. You do get access to a fairly cheap alternative to the gorgon with a corvus based minorus. I'd be willing to think about other tweaks to help them work better without cheaper transport.

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