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Knight World (netea) vs Black Templars (fan list) 20170720
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Author:  paulJam [ Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Knight World (netea) vs Black Templars (fan list) 20170720
i can barely count this as a batrep as i forgot several fundamental things from the very start... trying to do too many things at once. however, it happened so here it is.

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black templars deployment
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knights deployment

Black Templar vs Knight World 20170720
points: 2000
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army 1 - Black Templars (BT)
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[CRUr] Crusader + Rhino + Neophyte(4) + Hunter + Marshal
[CRUy] Crusader + Rhino + Neophyte(4) + Hunter + EmpChamp
[CRUb] Crusader + Neophyte(4) + Dreadnought(2) + Stormraven(5)
[LAND] Land Speeder
[SC] Strike Cruiser - turn 1 - 40 left, 15 top

army 2 - Knight World (KN)
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[KH1] Paladin(2) + Errant(2) + Baron
[KH2] Paladin(4) + Seneschal
[CAS] Castellan (4)
[AA] AA Gun Battery
[RR] Rough Riders
[TBOLT1] Thunderbolt 1
[TBOLT2] Thunderbolt2

turn 1
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strategy roll: Knight World
pre-turn Notes: I've been forgetting in init 2 until KH1... WHOOPS
[BT] [SC] - [ORB BOMBARD] [target: RR]
Combat Results: hits(2) saves(1) killed(1) add BMs(2) broken(false) destroyed(false)
[KN] [KH2] - [DOUBLE]
Notes: "Up right side. Behind building."
[BT] [CRUy] - [DOUBLE]
Notes: "Up right side, behind hill."
[KN] [RR] - [DOUBLE]
Notes: "Up center, behind building."
[BT] [LAND] - [DOUBLE]
Notes: "Forward centre board. Behind building."
[KN] [AA] - [ADVANCE]
Notes: "Into o cover"
[BT] [CRUr] - [ADVANCE]
Notes: "Behind land speeders"
[KN] [TBOLT1] - [GROUND ATTACK] ** Trigger Enemy Reaction ** [target: CRUb]
Combat Results: hits(2) saves(2) killed(0) add BMs(1) broken(false) destroyed(false)
[BT] [CRUr] - [FLACK] [target: TBOLT1]
Combat Results: hits(1) saves(0) killed(1) add BMs(2) broken(false) destroyed(false)
[BT] [CRUb] - [DOUBLE]
Notes: "Right. Behind cruyellow"
[KN] [KH1] - [HOLD MOVE]
Notes: "Fail init. Toward centre behind building."
[KN] [CAS] - [DOUBLE]
Notes: "Toward center"
[KN] [TBOLT2] - [STAND DOWN]
[BT] [CRUy] - [FLACK] [target: TBOLT1]
Combat Results: hits(0) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(1) broken(false) destroyed(false)
Notes: "End phase"
post-Turn Notes: CRUb pass rally. RR fail rally (sc reroll pass). KH1 passes rally.

turn 2
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strategy roll: Knight World
pre-turn Notes: Both used supcmd reroll on strategy roll. Forgot to put hunter models on table until now.
[KN] [KH2] - [ADVANCE] [target: CRUr]
Combat Results: hits(3) saves(0) killed(5) add BMs(6) broken(false) destroyed(false)
Notes: "3 rhinos initially then 2 armour save failed. 1 neo + 1 tactical. "
[KN] [RETAIN] [RR] - [HOLD REGROUP]
Regroup Results: remove BMs(1)
Notes: "Failed init"
[BT] [LAND] - [ADVANCE] [target: KH2]
Combat Results: hits(2) saves(0) killed(2) add BMs(3) broken(false) destroyed(false)
Notes: "Macro, knight shield save only"
[BT] [RETAIN] [CRUr] - [ENGAGE] [target: KH2] and Supporting Fire(LAND / none)
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| Attacker | Defender
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Hits | 7 | 2
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Saves | 2 | 0
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Supporting Fire | 1 | 0
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Kills | 6 | 2
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No BMs | 0 | 0
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Less BM | 0 | 0
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More Units | 0 | 0
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Double Units | 0 | 0
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Inspiring | 0 | 0
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Dice Rolled | 0 | 0
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Total | 0 | 0
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Extra Kills | no | no
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Total | 2 | 0
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Broken | no | no
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Destroyed | no | yes
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Notes: "Enough kills to remove without calc"
[KN] [AA] - [DOUBLE]
Notes: "Toward left"
[BT] [CRUy] - [ADVANCE] [target: KH1]
Combat Results: hits(2) saves(2) killed(0) add BMs(1) broken(false) destroyed(false)
[BT] [RETAIN] [CRUb] - [ENGAGE] [target: KH1] and Supporting Fire(none / AA)
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| Attacker | Defender
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Hits | 7 | 2
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Saves | 4 | 0
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Supporting Fire | 0 | 0
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Kills | 3 | 2
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No BMs | 1 | 1
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Less BM | 0 | 0
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More Units | 1 | 0
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Double Units | 1 | 0
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Inspiring | 0 | 0
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Dice Rolled | 6 | 6
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Total | 12 | 9
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Extra Kills | 3 | no
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Total | 2 | 0
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Broken | no | yes
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Destroyed | no | no
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Notes: "Kh1 back behind building. Sraven load up consolidate"
[KN] [CAS] - [SUSTAIN] [target: CRUy]
Combat Results: hits(4) saves(0) killed(4) add BMs(5) broken(false) destroyed(false)
[KN] [TBOLT1] - [STAND DOWN]
Notes: "Fail init"
[KN] [TBOLT2] - [GROUND ATTACK] [target: CRUb]
Combat Results: hits(2) saves(0) killed(5) add BMs(0) broken(false) destroyed(false)
Notes: "2sraven +3neos"
[BT] [CRUy] - [FLACK] [target: TBOLT2]
Combat Results: hits(0) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(1) broken(false) destroyed(false)
Notes: "End phase"
post-Turn Notes: Everything rolls off bm

turn 3
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strategy roll: Knight World
pre-turn Notes: In use supcmd on strategy roll, still lose
[BT] [CRUb] - [ENGAGE] [target: KH1]
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| Attacker | Defender
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Hits | 16 | 4
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Saves | 11 | 1
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Supporting Fire | 0 | 0
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Kills | 5 | 3
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No BMs | 0 | 0
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Less BM | 1 | 0
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More Units | 1 | 0
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Double Units | 0 | 0
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Inspiring | 0 | 0
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Dice Rolled | 6 | 6
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Total | 13 | 9
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Extra Kills | 4 | no
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Total | 3 | 0
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Broken | no | no
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Destroyed | no | yes
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Notes: "Consolidates to blitz"
[BT] [RETAIN] [CRUy] - [ENGAGE] [target: AA]
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| Attacker | Defender
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Hits | 5 | 2
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Saves | 0 | 1
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Supporting Fire | 0 | 0
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Kills | 5 | 1
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No BMs | 0 | 0
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Less BM | 0 | 0
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More Units | 0 | 0
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Double Units | 0 | 0
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Inspiring | 0 | 0
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Dice Rolled | 0 | 0
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Total | 0 | 0
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Extra Kills | no | no
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Total | 1 | 0
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Broken | no | no
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Destroyed | no | yes
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Notes: "AA no armour. Enough kills without calc."
[KN] [CAS] - [ADVANCE] [target: CRUy]
Combat Results: hits(3) saves(0) killed(3) add BMs(4) broken(false) destroyed(false)
[KN] [RETAIN] [RR] - [HOLD MOVE]
Notes: "Failed init"
[BT] [LAND] - [DOUBLE] [target: RR]
Combat Results: hits(1) saves(0) killed(1) add BMs(2) broken(false) destroyed(false)
[KN] [TBOLT2] - [GROUND ATTACK] [target: CRUb]
Combat Results: hits(3) saves(2) killed(1) add BMs(2) broken(false) destroyed(false)
[BT] [CRUr] - [DOUBLE] [target: RR]
Combat Results: hits(0) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(1) broken(true) destroyed(false)
[KN] [TBOLT1] - [STAND DOWN]
Notes: "Fail init"
[BT] [CRUy] - [FLACK] [target: TBOLT2]
Combat Results: hits(0) saves(0) killed(0) add BMs(2) broken(false) destroyed(false)
Notes: "Both hunters in range."
post-Turn Notes: CRUr and sraven roll off bm. CRUy uses supcmd to roll of bm.



final Notes: BT win 2:0


VICTORY CONDITIONS
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| Black Templars | Knight World
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Blitz | YES | NO
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Break their spirit | YES | NO
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Defend the flag | NO | NO
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Take and hold | NO | NO
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Shall not pass | NO | NO



Image
just starting turn 2
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final disposition
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big scrum in the middle

conclusion: the BT formations are fairly solid. more like playing titans compared to small marine 'teams'. kind of the point of them so not overly surprising. the knights low maneuverability seems to be quite a hurdle even with the long ranger shooters. Knights suffered from init roll fails when trying to retain which didn't help.

notes: was attempting to juggle new software, new list, new BT units, so was fairly loose on strategy to keep the game moving. forgot to put units on the table, forgot that knights are 2dc hence 2 FF/CC, and something else... which i've also forgotten (oh yeah, knights are init 2). the kind of stuff you remember if you're just focusing on one side.
long day but fun pushing little soldiers around the table.
[later] i will endeavor to have a rematch, whilst remembering everything, on the weekend.
Author:  PFE200 [ Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Knight World (netea) vs Black Templars (fan list) 201707
HI Dude,..

Interesting read and looks like a fun game..

Like the terrain..I gather you print those your self... ;D

To the Tool..I do like how the engage action is now shown, yes it takes up more space, but I can follow wants happening far easier then before....and the goal table is a plus to... ;)

Yeah we are only human and can forget things if we don't use those forces on regular bases..

Keep them coming......
Author:  paulJam [ Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Knight World (netea) vs Black Templars (fan list) 201707
PFE200 wrote:
Interesting read and looks like a fun game..

Thanks pfe
Fun yes. Shifting massed knights really fits the scale of the game i think.

PFE200 wrote:
Like the terrain..I gather you print those your self... ;D

Yes indeed. Just simple interlocking panels glued together.
The RUINS (last pic) are just panels i chopped up a bit.
Styrofoam for the hills. Got lazy and bought the roads.

PFE200 wrote:
To the Tool..I do like how the engage action is now shown, yes it takes up more space, but I can follow wants happening far easier then before....and the goal table is a plus to... ;)

It shows the working out of the combat result better yes. Might have a toggle btn if calc not required to pare off a few lines.
Author:  Norto [ Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Knight World (netea) vs Black Templars (fan list) 201707
looks good man, loving your 3d printed models :D and table, Battle reports cool too. Just alot of info to take in.

Also pretty sure the Sup Com only allows you to reroll an inititive test. Not the stratergy roll.

Keep up the good work, i shall be seeing you at the castle thats going to get assaulted.
Author:  paulJam [ Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Knight World (netea) vs Black Templars (fan list) 201707
Norto wrote:
looks good man, loving your 3d printed models :D and table, Battle reports cool too. Just a lot of info to take in.

hey norto, thanks for checking out the report and the feedback. from your next point you read the details (brave man, it's heavy going for a casual read)... still working on the formatting of the output.

Norto wrote:
Also pretty sure the Sup Com only allows you to reroll an initiative test. Not the strategy roll.

correct. another brain fart to add to the events of that game.

Norto wrote:
Keep up the good work, i shall be seeing you at the castle thats going to get assaulted.

thanks, looking forward to it.
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