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3000pts Eldar Ulthwe vs. Scions of Iron

 Post subject: 3000pts Eldar Ulthwe vs. Scions of Iron
PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:08 pm 
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Rules used:
Neal's changedoc
- Vindicator not MW
- Flyers cannot contest... (no such flyers)
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Armies:

Scions of Iron



Terminator Detachment    (550)
 + 2 Land Raider Crusade
 + Chaplain
Land Raider Helios Detachment   (575)
 + Hunter         (bts)
Heavy Tactical  (with 2 Land Raiders)  (350)
Tactical Detachment  (325)
  + 2 Vindicator
Tactical Detachment  (450)
  + Predator Destructor
  + Prometheus
Armoured Detachment  (350)
  4 Predator Annihilator
  + Hunter

Thunderhawk CAS (250)
Thunderbolts  (150)

Eldar Ulthwe

Warlock Titan (Power Fist) (850) (bts)
Guardians (1 heavy wpn)  (150)
Guardians (3 heavy wpn)  (350)
 + 3 Wraithguard
 + 3 Support Weapon
Black Guardians              (500)
 + 4 Wave Serpent
 + Seer Council
Shields of Vaul (2 Firestorm, 1 Night Spinner) (175)
Shields of Vaul (2 Firestorm, 1 Night Spinner) (175)
Storm Serpent (250)
Swooping Hawks (150)
Rangers (6) (150)
Jet Bikes (1 Vyper) (200)
Gate  (50)


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 Post subject: 3000pts Eldar Ulthwe vs. Scions of Iron
PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:12 pm 
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SETUP

Scions of Iron win strategy roll and choose their size. Objectives are placed, Eldar puts gate to one objective and garrisones Rangers close to it. Swooping Hawks are put to low orbit and Jet Bikes and both normal Guardian formations into webway.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:19 pm 
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TURN 1

No teleports. Initiative: Eldar

Both forces cautiously try to make other move. Thunderhawk CAS attacks other Shield of Vaul formation and destroys both Firestorms without taking damage. Other forces move a bit. Heavy Tacticals double to building in the middle and are first encircled by Black Guardians and then engaged by Jet Bikes from the gate. All Space Marines are wiped out without Eldar casualties. Jet Bikes fall behind buildings.

Helios detachment doubles and destroys some Black Guardians as does SC tactical detachment. Warlock titan doubles toward Helios detachment but causes no casualties. Predators and Terminator line up to sustain fire at Warlock if they win initiative...



Flyers exit without taking damage. All formations except lone Night Spinner rally.



(casualties after turn 1)


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:21 pm 
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TURN 2

After first 'neither wants to advance' turn it is now going to be full carnage...

To minimize losses if initiative is lost, Swooping Hawks drop down close to Helioses and Predators, to prevent them from sustain firing at Warlock.



Then the all important strategy roll is made...


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:31 pm 
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TURN 2 continues...

..and the roll is won by Eldar.

Warlock titan advances toward Terminators (and hides behind building against Predators) and opens fire with its psycannon, destroying half of the detachment. Storm Serpent then retains and moves closer and opens fire at Predators in crossfire, destroying one of them.

Finally, Eldar Guardiands pour out of Storm Serpent's gate and engage Terminators. With help of Warlock titan the remaining Terminators and their transport is wiped (no compromises!) but Guardians are routed by their own casualties.



I think the Predators then moved to new position and opened fire at Walock titan, causing damage to it. After that Jet Bikes engaged Helios detachment which took Swooping Hawks to same combat and wins it! Jetbikes fall back and only one surviving Swooping Hawk hides behind forests where it is killed by Thunderbolts later on.

Black Guardians marshal and fall behind building. From webway gate, big pile of Guardians pour out and double close to Predators, destroying one more of them.

(I cannot recall all details, but Eldar anyway had very good armour saves like they had in previous turn)

Helioses fail to activate and move closer to Black Guardians. SC tacticals double to kill Jet Bikes but they all save and only one is lost to blast markers.



Most formations rally. Jetbikes do not. No picture of casualty box, but it was like 5 more guardians for Eldar and Terminator detachment for Marines.


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 Post subject: 3000pts Eldar Ulthwe vs. Scions of Iron
PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:39 pm 
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TURN 3

Eldar finally remember to summon Avatar, which is put between Helios and SC Tactical detachments.

Initiative: Space Marines

Helioses advance to get Warlock titan in crossfire but fail to move that far. They open fire at it and cause one more damage. Predator retain and cause two more damage.



Avatar charges Helioses and they are caugh between it and Warlock titan. All are wiped. No compromises! That was BTS.
Big Guardian mob then sustains fire at Predators and wipe them out. Really no compromises! Finally Warlock titan tries to retain but fails and breaks!

It then again comes a bit hazy, but there is failed activations and then SC Tacticals are first shot by Fire Storms and then engaged by Black Guardians and most are killed. Black Guardians consolidate to take objective. Thunderhawk CAS tries to prevent them from claiming it but against Eldar armor prevails.

Vindicator Tacticals fail activation and fall back to protect Blitz.

Game over as Eldar has BTS and Defend the Flag. Rangers march to SM objectives to claim Take and Hold and as remaining SC Tacticals do not rout, it is They Shall Not Pass too.



The final result: 4-0 for Eldar (all but Blitz)

Comments: why Ulthwe Aspect host costs 150 and Ilyanden costs 175?


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 Post subject: 3000pts Eldar Ulthwe vs. Scions of Iron
PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:07 pm 
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Comments on army lists:

Allowing 4 teleporting units with Scout for 150 points is quite a bargain especially when linked with SR 5. However,  other Aspect warriors for that cost do not seem too cheap. So here is a bit of problem on my opinion.

Soory Hena, I do not like initiative 1+ bombers :]  (especially with such a high weaponload)
Helioses, however, feel a bit overpriced. Again it was BTS and what did it have? Barrage Land Raiders and one Hunter...

I like the Scions possibility to have Land Raiders with ordinary Tacticals. And mixed formations with Predators or Vindicators along with Tacticals. In overall, the list seems nice, although it is quite irritating when there is lots of those very durable flyers around (not this time, however)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:01 pm 
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(Hena @ Mar. 11 2008,14:51)
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Do you think that CAS is too cheap at 250?

Well it has (over?) double the firepower of 2 Thunderbolts..
..with better initiative
..and range
..and durability

And is not taken from 1/3 slot I guess?

However, it cannot shoot other aircraft down. But the possibility to attack AA first (with 60cm range) is quite a good ability, and if it is not taken from 1/3 slot, is not reducing AA/titan capabilities.
I would say: drop the range or maybe it should cost 300

(IMO no aircraft weapon should have range longer than 30cm - no matter if the range is longer when shot from ground)


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