Dave wrote:
The Ghaz list has all of that with the exception of the references to Tankbustas/Lootas/Flash Gits and Burnas.
Ooh, ya got me. If you ignore half the stuff that's mentioned, they're exactly the same!
Dave wrote:
I also don't agree mechanically either, 'Ere We Go makes them good at charging which EA does with Power of the Waaagh! And Mob Rule bumps their morale when numbers are high, which EA has with an identically named rule.
Let's do a quick mechanical rundown. The description you quoted is actually a pretty good representation of Orks on the tabletop in 8th, so let's start there.
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The rest of the tribe is made up of Ork mobs. Many of these fight on foot, gathering in great numbers beneath the boss-pole of one Nob or another and following them howling into battle.
Nope. The only way to run Ork mobs effectively in NetEA is to put them in a Landa. "Fighting on foot" is a complete waste of time - even if they do manage to slog across the board, a much faster unit will clip your mob and then they're stuffed.
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Other Orks hurtle to war in smoke-belching Trukks, Buggies and Battlewagons, or sitting astride snarling Warbikes.
Nope. Trukks ("Battlewagons" in EA) exist, but they're a massive liability because of the way damage kills passengers, not to mention that they're overcosted. Buggies effectively don't exist - only Skorchas do, because everything else in that class is worthless. Seen a lot of Warbikes on the table recently? There's nothing like a 40k Battlewagon in NetEA.
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Others still build huge and preposterous guns with which to shred their victims from a distance, or else charge madly into the fight spewing fire from dubious-looking flamethrowers.
Nope.
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Squadrons of hurtling aircraft, convoys of looted tanks, clanking, saw-fisted walkers and batteries of bizarre field artillery - all of these mobs and many more can be found within most Ork tribes to one degree of another.
I'll happily give you the aircraft and the field artillery. Looted tanks are a tough one to judge, given they don't exist in either game at the moment. Walkers? The Kans and Dreads are sort of there (when was the last time you saw a Dreadmob in a Ghaz list again?), Stompas could pretend to be some portion of the Gorkanaut/Morkanaut/Meka-Dread/Mega-Dread spectrum if you sort of squint a bit (but are rarely ever fielded), and Supa-Stompas can pass as Stompas. So... kind of?
If you think they're similar, that's fine, good for you. I find them nothing alike. Orks in NetEA just aren't very "Orky", and I think that's a huge shame.