so I rarely play epic. maybe once or twice a year at most, but i picked up a vehicle heavy ork lot for next to nothing, and orks hold a special place in my heart from my 40k days. I am looking for advice on a balanced 3000 point force that i can use. I did the same thing with Eldar and perhaps I can use them as demo armies against each other.

thanks

dave

I think the main advantage of the speed freeks list is in the numbers it can field, while one of the top UK speed freaks lists could be built using the ghazgkull list with the only difference being the supreme commander, other successful lists make use of the trukks + boyz mob as I don't think there is any other list which gives you 12 units for 200 points, where possible keep the boyz mounted as this will mean it will be almost impossible to firefight you (10cm countercharge plus 5cm dismount) use planes for harassment and dethkopta formations to boost activations

one particularly crazy UK build took 14 gunfortresses, seems silly but it won the Grand Tournament back in 2011

these are obviously general ideas, best thing is to have a play around on armyforge and look at some batreps to see how others play the list

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thanks for the info. i looked around a bit and without having to buy anything i built this list:

Incompertus, 2935 POINTS
Burning Death Speed Freeks (NetEA Tournament Pack 2013)
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BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
4 Gunwagon, Mekboy Speedsta

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
4 Gunwagon, Mekboy Speedsta

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
4 Gunwagon, Mekboy Speedsta

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
4 Gunwagon, Mekboy Speedsta

BLITZ BRIGADE [260]
4 Gunwagon, 3 Boyz, Nobz

BLITZ BRIGADE [260]
4 Gunwagon, 3 Boyz, Nobz

KULT OF SPEED [235]
8 Warbuggy, Flakwagon

KULT OF SPEED [235]
8 Warbuggy, Flakwagon

WARBIKE OUTRIDERS [150]
5 Scout Warbikes

WARBIKE OUTRIDERS [150]
5 Scout Warbikes

WARBIKE OUTRIDERS [150]
5 Scout Warbikes

FORTRESS MOB (BIG) [545]
2 Battlefortress, 2 Gunfortress, 2 Flakwagon

FIGHTA SKWADRON [150]
3 Fighta Bomba

it has ample activation but i feel i might get shut out again hard attacks and i am not using the mob rule for most of my formation. thoughts?

Since you have some Points left, I would change The Battlefortresses for Gunfortresses. And I would think about to place a Nob in the formation.