No and Yes, if a real need is shown then I will consider them and put it forward for confirmation by the ERC. I still need to be convinced though.
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We currently see Goffs/Evil Suns/Snake Bites (boy mob), Bloodaxes, Stormboys - but at the very least some Deff Skulls (mob upgrade, 2 x big shootas, 5+ FF - balanced by no grot included like a orc boyz stand) or Mega Nobz (Nob with 4+RA, Macro CC 10cm move 50points).
There are models for these things, but no implementation in the rules - I'd give my left nut to have my boys mobs with a few of the above deff skulls helping to mitigate the poor assault range of the orks/ clipping assaults against.
While I'm at it - a Drop in points for the Stompas. They may have lots of firepower, but poor initiative doesn't make them a reliable shooting platform. 60-65 pints would look good.
Finally, Trukks for boys mobs - similar setup as Rhinos giving the orks a cheap transport option - the current 140points for battlewagons prices them out of use.
Ok, I can hear what you are saying, but am a bit at a loss as to why you are looking for these things as
Deff Skulls (mob upgrade, 2 x big shootas, 5+ FF - balanced by no grot included like a orc boyz stand)
– use the Nobz upgrade (& you get leader).
Mega Nobz (Nob with 4+RA, Macro CC 10cm move 50points)
– 4+RA is not going to happen with the mob rule/grots and balancing. If you want the Macro take Killa Kans & Dreadnoughts.helping to mitigate the poor assault range of the orks/ clipping assaults against
– Yes this is a big point of the list and when done correctly is the bane of an Ork player.
a Drop in points for the Stompas. They may have lots of firepower, but poor initiative doesn't make them a reliable shooting platform. 60-65 pints would look good
– Much harder to balance when compared to Dreads and other units. As I stated I would still need to be convinced that they need a change. I think one of the issues here is that they are not taken in sufficient numbers so small formations don’t seem to make their points back.
Finally, Trukks for boys mobs - similar setup as Rhinos giving the orks a cheap transport option - the current 140points for battlewagons prices them out of use.
– That is what the Speed Freak list is there for……..However good to have some debate and interest shown in the lists. I would be interested in seeing the lists you use & face as well as battlefield conventions.