Mordoten, i finally got two of the things i promised done.
First of all, you asked for help time ago to join the three parts into one. So here you have.
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Second, I completed the statistics of the battle reports for this list since you took it, included the last recent two games. Tried to make it easier to read, but wanted to have everything on one page to make easier to compare things, so its a bit cramped.
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To summarize, overall, this statistic shows a ratio of 1:1 on wins/losses, but changes to 2:1 if we count wins by points. There is also a big of a disparity along the time:
- On 2015 Gargants got 1:2 with more disparity of enemies except no Eldar, with more games that went to points.
- And in 2016 won 2:1, with less games that got to points, and almost every lost game against Eldar.
The list is very resilient, in damage, breaking and capability of rallying: when the games went to points, almost every game was for Orks with no heavy losses, with some cases of not a single loss for the Orks. Probably too good.
* On the positive side: /1./ Most battles were against the usual top three popular lists in Tournaments (SM,Eldar and IG).
/2./ There were variety in the number of Gargants taken in 3000 point games (1 to 4).
/3./ There were a balanced variety on victory conditions and Turns.
* On the negative side: /1./ More than one third of the battles were against Eldar, and the second third for Adeptus Mechanicus and Knights. We would need more Space Marines, other Ork lists, and if possible, Necrons, Dark Elves and more Tyranids and Chaos, to complete it.
/2./ Doesn't look that there was any battle switching sides, doubting on one of them, so we don't know till which point knowing how to play this list or Ork lists in general was important in these numbers.
/3./ There was no battle against Ghazghkull lists, which could give us good info as it is the closest list to this one, and its veteran players could value this list the best.
/4./ Maybe as expected, almost every lost game for this list are in Turn 3, and mostly against Eldar which isn't surprising, as is the usual bane of Ork lists in general. Whats worse is that lately they mostly only lose to Eldar, and only in around a 1:1 ratio.
/5./ As expected, Great Gargants weren't taken many times, less if we count that people tried more things as it was for testing.
/6./ Only one person used the list for games with more points than 3000, and another on 1000-2000 points on a Minigeddon event (the latter not recorded here, there is no information).
/7./ Doesn't appear on the statistics, but i have taken note that there are options that were never taken: Transporta, Bommer, Kroozer, added troops (not counting Big formations or Battlefortress) on anything besides Gargants, or barely taken (Head of Gork after the Special Rule of the Special Mob Rule was implemented and Extra Fields).
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There is also some issues on the statistics to take into account: Most of the times there was barely information about the battles so i had to search in each line of text and write what i could find, hence, there are some considerations to take into account:
/1./ If it says win by x-0 is that the guy just said who won, but not by how much, could be 2-0 or 4-1. In cases where he said a bit more put that too. Turn x is unknown turn.
/2./ There was people playing this list against EpicUK lists, sometimes they say it, sometimes not. I put it for those times it was told. Haven't put if it was a NetEA list but around one third of them said nothing about which were.
/3./ Around half of them didn't say which version of the list was used, so i put the month it was played as a guess but it is not accurate, as I have seen several people that played older versions of the lists even till 3 months after the last update. Also take into account that sometimes Army Forge wasn't up to date for that game, so there are some that are from some more recent versions. Because of that when the version the guy says and the version on the list aren't the same, on those cases, I trusted the player.
/4./ I have written how many and which Gargants were fielded, for those battle reports where there was a list posted.
/5./ Tried to put detailed info, so wrote it when armies were another besides 3000 points and put the amounts on how big the win was if i could find it.
/6./ If i couldn't find even who won and couldn't even guess it i didn't put the battle in the list, so there were several more battles played out there than shown. There were several that just said their opinion about the list and no data.
/7./ When it doesn't tell the points of the game, its 3000 points or there is no information that i could find about it. Doesn't matter much, only one person played with other numbers than 3000, as far as is in this statistics goes.
Have fun with it! I know it is a big quantity of data and text.