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Need help building an Ork Ghazkhull list

 Post subject: Need help building an Ork Ghazkhull list
PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:32 am 
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Hi all. So after posting regarding theme in another part of the forum, it seems this is the right place to post about my actual army list plan. Please let me know if it is not.

I looked at the European lists, and found mine is nothing like them though... That seems to be a bad sign. Mine is VERY themey at the moment.

Ghazskul Warhorde

Goffs-
Ork Warband(Big) 350pts
Oddboy 50
2 Stompas 150
TOTAL 550

Evil Sunz-
Ork Warband(Normal) 200
1 oddboy 50
4 Battlewagons 140
TOTAL 390


Deffskullz-
Ork Warband 200
6 Big Gunz 150
2 Stormboys 50
Battlefortress(giant transport 8) 115
2 Battlewagons(transport 2 each) 70
2 Flakkwagonz(transport 1 each) 70
TOTAL 655

Blood Axe-
Stormboyz Warhorde 150
1 Kommandos 25
TOTAL 175

Snakebite-
Ork Warband(Normal) 200
7 War bikes(boar boys) 175
3 Combat Stompas(Tyranosaurs) 225
3 Gun fortress' (Allosaur) 375
TOTAL 975



Bad Moonz-
Mekboy Gunzmob(big) 225
3 Big Gunz 75
1 Oddboy 50
350

Badmoonz, or Evil Sunz
Mekboy Stompamob(Big) 400

3495

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 Post subject: Re: Need help building an Ork Ghazkhull list
PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 12:43 pm 
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Well first of all, you need to mount those Oddboys on something. Off the top of my head, you can use them to upgrade Big Guns, Gunwagons and Gunfortresses, but not regular boyz, Stompas or Battlewagons, sadly.

Second, I'm hesitant about mixing Stormboyz with other units. That lone Kommando won't accomplish much other than slowing the rest of the formation down.

Third, be mindful of the number of activations you have in your army. It's a fine balance between too weak units and too few activations, but an opponent that handily out-activates you is free to wreak havoc once you've run out of formations. He can freely set up crossfires, supporting fire for engagements and snag up objectives that you are powerless to do anything about. I'd recommend splitting some of your formations up to alleviate this. Prevailing wisdom seems to be ~3 activations per 1000 points, give or take. I wouldn't put together a standard 3000 point list with less than 8 activations, and preferably 10.

Finally, I'd say you need some more air defence. You've included two Flakwagons, but they can only cover a 30 cm radius around them (and rolling sixes isn't easy). If you actually do go up against aerial units they'll pretty much have free reign, as it stands. Besides, Fighta-Bommers and Landas are really, really good.


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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 12:54 pm 
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That's all good advice I think. Instead of the stompas with the goffs I'd reinforce some cheap normal sized mobs with a couple of dreadnoughts to give them some punch and field the stompas as a stompamob. If you can trim your list enough to fit in a superstompa you've got a titan-killer and macro barrage unit which your opponant can't afford to ignore.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:53 pm 
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Really like your clan theme!

One clan that doesn't seem to work game wise is your death skull clan. Even with the BF, BW and FW you still can't transport all those big guns so you'll be moving at 10cm a move!.

Mekboy gunszmobs make a great cheap activation, and you can garrison them on objectives too ( very death skull!) giving them an oddboy with a supazzap gun gives them a bit more punch too and can catch out an unwary opponent with a cheeky over watch shot.

So I would split up your death skulls into a mekboy gunszmobs (to protect da loot) and a mounted warband ( to go off and get some moar!)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:09 pm 
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I think you have to drop the theme-bit completly if you want to make a competitive list.

I would do stompa mob + supa stompa as blirzguard/BTS
3x3-4 fighta bombas

2xWarbands in landas

2xbig blitz brigades with half being AA

1-2x Stormboyz

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:50 pm 
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Ok, so not the most optimised maybe, but this might fit your 'clan' theme without being too uncompetitive:

Incompertus, 2990 POINTS
Ghazgkhull Thraka's War Horde (Epic UK v100909)
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DEATHSKULLS
MEKBOY GUNMOB (BIG) [275]
10 Big Gunz, Oddboy - Super Zzap

BLOOD AXES
STORMBOYZ WARHORDE [200]
8 Stormboyz


GOFF
WARBAND (BIG) [490]
4 Nobz, 12 Boyz, 4 Grotz, Warlord, 4 Dreadnought

BAD MOON
MEKBOY STOMPAMOB [510]
3 Stompa, Supa Stompa, Flakwagon

SNAKEBITES
KULT OF SPEED [250]
10 Warbike (Boarboyz)

EVIL SUNZ
BLITZ BRIGADE (BIG) [300]
4 Flakwagon, 4 Gunwagon, Oddboy - Super Zzap

EVIL SUNZ
BLITZ BRIGADE (BIG) [300]
4 Flakwagon, 4 Gunwagon, Oddboy - Super Zzap

EVIL SUNZ
FIGHTA SQUADRON [150]
3 Fighta Bomba

EVIL SUNZ
FIGHTA SQUADRON [150]
3 Fighta Bomba

BAD MOON
WARBAND [365]
2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, Battlefortress (Oddboy - power fields)

Just my two cents... :)


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