One more minor nit, as the faction rule may be going from CSM if you want it here, and It wouldn't be a bad thing, it will need adding to the lists special rules.

And yet are undeniably horrors. In general, I'm very much of the opinion that using available models as any kind of metric for list creation is crazy to say the least. Baring the odd random Forgeworld release, there will most likely never be another epic scale mini released by Games Workshop, at least for the foreseeable future.

Regarding the list itself, I really like the focus on demons themselves (and this is coming from someone with a large box FULL of the ld demon engines) but was wondering if list construction could be made even more chaotic.

Something like instead of the fixed formations, demonic foci (in the form of greater demons or demonic heralds) are bought as core formations, and summoning points (in the form of xD3s) are bought for them. At the beginning of each turn, the D3s for each formation are rolled and that formation ges hat number of lesser demons of its faction. If it rolls under the number of lesser demons it has currently, it loses the excess. There'd need to be some mechanism to reduce th encumber of summoning dice a formation had, but I haven't thought that far ahead yet.

I know that idea sounds fun Mike, but just think of how much 'fun' it would be for you and your opponent when your playing a 5K game? That's a lot of "I roll xD3, so that means I can add/subtract these...."

Then you get augmented and icon's to keep them all there...

In a list that in its heart is supposed to be a tournament style list balanced between 3 and 5K it's all too random.

I fear you're right

I think maybe I just enjoyed the incredulity 150 stands of tyranid infantry caused and want more. Maybe I'm just an inner baddie

Well write a scenario where it balances out? Happy to bounce ideas about for that, but probably best elsewhere

TYPE SPEED ARM. CC FF WEAPONS RANGE FIREPOWER NOTES

Defilers AV 20cm 4+ 4+ 3+
Battle Cannon 75cm AP4+ / AT4+ Fearless, Infiltrator
Reaper Autocannon 30cm AP4+ / AT6+ Inv Save, walker
Twin Heavy Flamer 15cm AP3+, Ignore cover
Battle Claws (base contact) (Assault Weapons) MW, EA(+1)

Soul-grinder AV 15cm 3+ 3+ 4+
Phlegm 35cm AP4+/AT4+ Fearless, Infiltrator
Vomit 15cm AP3+ Ignore cover Inv Save, walker
Harvester Claws (base contact) (assault Wepaons) MW, EA(+1)
AND (small arms) (small arms) EA(+3)

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2.4 update.

1) Re-arranged Daemonic Hordes into 6 core daemons plus 1-6 of other aligned Daemons. I kept the 6 core daemons to bulk up the points of the core formations to hold down possible activation count.

2) Added Herald Characters to Daemonic Hordes - just basic EA+1 MW for now, with FF or CC depending on the God.

3) Dropped Altar to 100pts, though this will need looking at once the structure is fixed(ish)

4) Kept Horrors as the 'core' Tzeentch daemon - yes flamers may be more readily available, but as we have seen the conversions are easy, and 2 x 4+ FF on a core stand seemed a little too good!

5) Added a maniple of 4-6 Soulgrinders as an undivided support formation, added Maddoctors stats for soulgrinders to the list - though points will need to increase for these given the stats.

6) Added a formation of 6-8 Furies as an undivided support fm. These have AA (30 cm AA6+), and are very cheap as a formation so possibly not the best idea!

7) I need to add the Factions Rule, but need to rework the layout to fit it in. Bear with me.

Added stats to the unit list - I will eventually get around to arranging this by God.

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Actually there are Daemon World Armies
and there are Chaos Daemon Incursions.

The first would be a mix of Cultists, Mutants, Chaos Space Marines, Daemon Engines, etc. STuff xou would find on a Daemon World.
The other one would be a pure Daemon force comign straigt through a Warp Rift.

The current list isn't a Daemon World list imho. It's a Daemon Incursion.

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Why are fiends an LV and beasts of nurgle INF?

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Good question
changed it now

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And would screamers be a valid candidate for geting an AA attack? as they could presumably 'mob' aircraft as well. Although they would need re-naming to avoid stat confusion across lists.

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Typo mistake, bloodthirster is listed as INF not WE

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Updated :p

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More pedantry i'm afraid, not sure if typo or intended difference: daemon world juggernauts have fearless, but world eaters ones do not. Should match across lists or get a name change?

edit: looking at it more, loads of stuff has been given fearless in the 2.4 doc. Bloodletters, plaguebearers, daemonettes etc – these are not fearless in black legion or LaTD.

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Pedantry is good!

It is just me copying over 'Notes' from unit to unit. Update in 2 mins.


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1) Name change - Daemon World to Daemon Incursion

2) Fearless removed from most daemons.

3) Removed mention of summoning from Furies.

4) Note Heralds have an Inv save, but so does anything they can be added to - Should I leave it in for fluff reasons, or just ditch the doubling?

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