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Obliterators in Land Raiders?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:07 am 
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Is there any particular reason why Obliterators can't be transported in Chaos Land Raiders? Could we change the list to allow this?

In 40k Obliterators can't fit in Rhinos, but can be transported in a Chaos Land Raider. Like Terminators they take up more space than regular troops, but a Chaos Land Raider should be able to carry 1 stand of Obliterators in Epic.


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 Post subject: Re: Obliterators in Land Raiders?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:48 pm 
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Well, Obliterators in a land raider would be 75 pts + 75 pts per stand to haul them around. I can't see myself doing it often but it would make for one heck of a point sink if I mech'd up two stands (would also predetermine the BTS too, most likely).

I guess the argument against meching them up could come from making reinforced armor/thick rear armor/fearless super-terminators too mobile? Doubling them on foot gets them 30cm across the board, doubling them in raiders gets you a 50cm redeployment (which doesn't sound like much on paper, but add another 45cm for body weapons & land raiders' guns).

Short of the Red Corsairs list, I don't think obliterators have access to thunderhawks generally, and formations that could attach obliterators can't fit into thunderhawks without suffering casualties first anyhow.

So, those are my considerations. I personally think they cost would be too prohibitive to see it used often, and I think the biggest issue would be modifying all the lists' language.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:43 am 
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I would regard this as a pretty major change to the list as it makes a fully mechanised list much more viable, if people want to test it with an eye on 2014-15 that's fine but I don't see it as a huge priority

I'd rather see playtesting efforts concentrated on the experimental+developmental CSM lists

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:31 pm 
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We play it, Land Raiders can carry 2 SM or 2 Terminator stands ... or - 1 Obliterator stand ... Now since we play Robots as well as Dreads ... we figure the same ... 1 'bot/Dread - For many transport units, we do a 2 - 1 for Drop Pods, Dropships, Tunnelers, etc. ... 2 stands of Infantry = 1 Robot/Dread ... But we don't allow Robots or Dreads in Raiders or Rhinos ...

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