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Post subject: EDT BATREP: Elysians vs. Space Marines Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:49 am

Brood Brother Joined: Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:52 am Posts: 4

Quote (jfrazell @ 24 Mar. 2006 (21:52)) Quote (Tactica @ 24 Mar. 2006 (17:25)) I don't know the exact situation, but 'teleporting termys' + Strategy 5 + going first should equal = base to base sentinels that all died. I may have misperceived Honda, I thought he did CC the sentinels.  They were wiped but if I remember correctly all four (or maybe three) rolled hits with the MW.   Was there a glitch here? Could the eldar advice have actually been quite brilliant I did CC the Sentinels, as FF would have drawn in the HQ next to them.  I guess the question is would macro weapons work in CC?   Having never used IG in Epic, I have no idea

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Post subject: EDT BATREP: Elysians vs. Space Marines Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:56 am

Brood Brother Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas

In one of those 20/20 hindsight things, Brett realized that he probably should have activated his Thunderhawk and shot up the Sentinels (more than likely breaking them) and then retained with the Terminators to try and knock off the Regimental HQ in front of their position. Oh well, live and learn. I don't know the exact situation, but 'teleporting termys' + Strategy 5 + going first should equal = base to base sentinels that all died. Unless my ... err... 'math by proxy' is wrong here, 3 terminators should not have died in this exchange. There must have been a tactical oops, really bad dice, or both for these results to occur. Maybe there was a terrible amount of supporting fire or something... fully admit that I don't know the details here - but something sounds 'fishy'.

Ok, let me help with the mystery.

Brett did in fact CC the Sentinels and all of them did die. The also hit with their MW attacks, scoring 4 hits.

Now I think we did this next part correctly, but I'm willing to hear to the contrary. Because the Sentinel weapons were MW, the terminators lose their RA. So, Brett rolls normally, failing three, so three kills.

Not the most sterling performance for saves, but certainly taking away the RA was the key.

The tactical situation that you are unable to take into account because the map is missing, is that the Terminators were in buildings (4+ save, regardless) and they moved out into the open to engage the Sentinels, who just so happened to be supported by two DTCs, one of which had Hardened Vets polishing their sniper scopes.

I think I've already addressed the 20/20 hindsight play (i.e. use the Thunderhawk on the Sentinels, then follow up on the other units with Terminators). Since that option wasn't obvious to us first, then sending the Terminators after the Sentinels in CC wasn't as good a play as just shooting them with the Terminator assault cannon, more than likely breaking them with their hits (8 shots) and denying the Sentinels the chance to hit back with their multi-meltas.

Remember, these aren't yer Momma's Sentinel, they come packing a MW.

So, enlightened gents, let us know if we at least played the MW mechanism correctly and now also consider that low save rolls make everybody equal.