Redgeran wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't gorgons only 2DC at one point? Baneblades weigh 300 tons in fluff = 3DC. Macharius weight almost 200 tons (gorgons just a little bit more than 200)= 2DC. Same armor for all 3 (about 200mm). Makes sense to me. .
I can't say for certain, but I highly doubt it.
Like the Baneblade a Gorgon has 3 structure points in 40k which translates to 3DC in epic (Macharius in comparison only has 2 in 40k). It has equally thick armour, plus a second layer of thick armour plating out to it's front in the form a giant dozer blade that covers all the front of the tank and also acts as extra armour (it has a special rule on top meaning it ignores 50% of attacks from the front in 40k). It's current stats are definitely fitting for it, a worse critical and MUCH higher cost (50 or more extra for a pair) should be the way to go.
I got round to posting up the Marauder Heavy Bomber spam battle report I mentioned after -
Bombs Away! Krieg + Navy vs Titan LegionList used was:
Death Korps of Krieg supported by Imperial Navy Bomber Wing:
Infantry Company with Gorgons and Commissar - 425
Death Rider Company with Commissar - 250
Death Rider Company with Commissar - 250
3 x Stormsword with Commissar (BTS) - 500
Grenadiers in Centaurs with Commissar – 300
AA Battery – 2 Hydra Platforms, a Heavy AA Gun, 3 Trojans and Commissar - 125
AA Battery – 2 Hydra Platforms, a Heavy AA Gun and 3 Trojans – 125
AA Battery – 2 Hydra Platforms, a Heavy AA Gun and 3 Trojans – 125
Thunderbolts - 150
Heavy Marauder Bomber - 150
Heavy Marauder Bomber - 150
Heavy Marauder Bomber - 150
Heavy Marauder Bomber - 150
Heavy Marauder Bomber –- 150
14 activations
I was up against a Titan Legion and all that Reinforced Armour meant I didn't kill that much with them, but they were very useful and helped me break the titans, kill the small stuff and win the game (despite my Stormswords failing to activate all 3 turns).
Think over what a 3k army with 5 or 6 individual Marauder Heavy Bombers could do to an unprepared generalist army. It could be challenging for them to deal with. I took more regular Krieg stuff for the rest of my army because I didn't want to take a list too horrible to face, but if you really wanted to abuse it you could design the rest of the army with lots of cheap 125 point 60cm Heavy AA Gun formation garrisoned forward to give them wide flak cover, plus artillery like Medusas with 120cm disrupt ignore cover barrages to take out or put BMs on enemy AA. The idea being to get air dominance as soon as possible and then attack the enemy with 6 separate Bombers a turn with them being powerless to stop them. Being 2 DC they could even risk going into enemy AA occasionally if needs be too. Do you see a potential problem with this sort of a list?
I would prefer to see Marauder Heavy Bombers made 0-1 per company in the army, which would reduce their numbers somewhat. It wouldn't effect 99% of the lists people use, but would prevent the problematic spamming of them. I wonder if they should be 175 rather than 150 too, but the first change would be more significant to reduce the numbers that could be taken.
