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 Post subject: Cadian Shock Troops list idea
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:18 pm 
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It's been a couple of years since Chroma posted his Cadian list, and I'm not aware that anyone's picked it up to play it regularly.
However, I'm looking at making a Cadian army some time soonish (After I've finished painting up my Tau and Elysian armies), and I've poked at Chroma's list a bit.

I think it's a good base to work from, but undesirable as a list to play currently, for me, anyway.

So, changes I've proposed:


- Deleted most of the fotification options and just left one option in - so as to generate a list that's about attacking with infantry waves, rather than sitting in trench lines and banging away with artillery.

- Deleted Warhound class Titans - so as to emphasise the "stodgy" attack style of the Cadians as being slower than the mechanized style Steel Legion.

- Deleted Sappers and Special Weapons squads - As I felt there were a few too many infantry unit types

- Changed "Sanctioned Psyker" character to a paid-for upgrade - So as to allow more Psykers in the army, because Psykers are one of the Cadian hallmarks, and also are pretty cool!

- Moved the AV type upgrades over to support formations - so as to put more emphasis on the infantry core.

- Changed the Sentinel to be the "Cadian Armoured Sentinel", which loses scout but gains an autocannon and armour 5+ - so as to be more Cadian-ish!

- Changed the Leviathan from being a support formation to being part of the Reg HQ formation - so as to give the Reg HQ a distinctive character.

- Added "Ordinatus Cadia" - because I think perhaps the world could do with having more availablility for Ordinatus class vehicles?


So, any good?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:28 pm 
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Evil and Chaos wrote:
However, I'm looking at making a Cadian army some time soonish (After I've finished painting up my Tau and Elysian armies)


Do you mean like how you MADE your Tau and Elysian from "Scratch"?? If so Damn you Sir! ;)


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:36 pm 
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You have Battle Psykers listed with a (15cm) assault weapons, should be small arms.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:05 pm 
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Hmmm....

Ordinatus Cadia- Does it need the 0-1? I mean its 550, you need to play a 4k to play two of them anyways plus I can see two at a 4k game.

Whiteshileds- Why are they just cheap Guardsmen? Why aren't they cheap/craper guardsmen?

Leman Russ- No Demolishers??? Seems like a good support Infantry Tank.

Hydra- No Upgrade?

Special Weapons- Like to seem them or some other Support option if this is a Infantry list.

Navy- No Spaceship? Also can it have another Marauder variant or Lightnings? Or something different?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:11 pm 
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Named Ordinatii are by definition unique.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:33 pm 
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Angel_of_Caliban wrote:
Whiteshileds- Why are they just cheap Guardsmen? Why aren't they cheap/craper guardsmen?


They have initiative 3+


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zombocom wrote:
Angel_of_Caliban wrote:
Whiteshileds- Why are they just cheap Guardsmen? Why aren't they cheap/craper guardsmen?


They have initiative 3+

Right...but same stats right?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:54 am 
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Spectrar Ghost wrote:
Named Ordinatii are by definition unique.

That wasn't the feeling I got from E&C.

Evil and Chaos wrote:
Added "Ordinatus Cadia" - because I think perhaps the world could do with having more availability for Ordinatus class vehicles?

Kinda implies more than one Ordinatus, am I wrong?


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Angel_of_Caliban wrote:
Evil and Chaos wrote:
Added "Ordinatus Cadia" - because I think perhaps the world could do with having more availability for Ordinatus class vehicles?

Kinda implies more than one Ordinatus, am I wrong?


I'm pretty sure E&C meant that epic would be better off with more ordinatii in it, i.e. other than in the skitari list.

All named ordinatus are indeed unique, and ordinatii in general are so hugely rare that it's unthinkable that any army outside the personal forces of a forgeworld would have more than one.


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The three previous named Ordinatus Majorii (Armageddon, Golgotha, Mars) were one-off designs created in response to the needs of a specific campaign. The Cadians certainly have a reason to need one; but naming it for the planet implies that it is the Cadian Ordinatus Majorus. THere may be other Ordinatii, but they are likely more run of the mill.

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Angel_of_Caliban wrote:
Evil and Chaos wrote:
However, I'm looking at making a Cadian army some time soonish (After I've finished painting up my Tau and Elysian armies)


Do you mean like how you MADE your Tau and Elysian from "Scratch"?? If so Damn you Sir! ;)

Yup. :-)

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Evil and Chaos wrote:
Angel_of_Caliban wrote:
Evil and Chaos wrote:
However, I'm looking at making a Cadian army some time soonish (After I've finished painting up my Tau and Elysian armies)


Do you mean like how you MADE your Tau and Elysian from "Scratch"?? If so Damn you Sir! ;)

Yup. :-)

Oh Great! *Sigh* ::) ;) Is that next? and is that before or after the Grot Tanks?!? ;D

So any comment on my comments about your comments? Eh? ::)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:17 am 
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Angel_of_Caliban wrote:
Hmmm....

Ordinatus Cadia- Does it need the 0-1? I mean its 550, you need to play a 4k to play two of them anyways plus I can see two at a 4k game.

Yep, it does. See answers above as to why.

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Whiteshileds- Why are they just cheap Guardsmen? Why aren't they cheap/craper guardsmen?

As noted above, they have initiative 3+ because they're newbies.

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Leman Russ- No Demolishers??? Seems like a good support Infantry Tank.

Could do demolishers in the Platoon, too.

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Hydra- No Upgrade?

Nope, am trying to put the emphasis on infantry for the core formations. Also, with cheaper core, it's good to put a little extra pressure on the support slots.

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Special Weapons- Like to seem them or some other Support option if this is a Infantry list.

What would their role be? The same as that performed by Storm Troopers?

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Navy- No Spaceship?

Ooops.

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Also can it have another Marauder variant or Lightnings? Or something different?

I don't really see a need for other aircraft types.

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and is that before or after the Grot Tanks?!?

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For Infantry Upgrades you could have Heavy Bolter or Lascannon or Mortars or something? So you can add more troops is a varied way. Granted with the stat lines in Epic a lot of tho's weapons are similar.

AT Support - 4 Lascannon Stands maybe?
Mortar Support - 4 Mortar Stands
Special Support - 4 Melta or Flamers?

As for the Navy. I've really wanted to see stats and list with the other Marauders for awhile. Thought might be a place to try a Vigilant or Colossus or Destroyer? Eh? Kinda give the IG support feel that is lacking but doesn't over power the list and let's it stay Infantry focused.


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