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Cadian Shock Troops v1.5

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:54 pm 
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I don’t have any ideas on how to fix the overpricing on Inf coys. Perhaps that is something for Steel Legion as well? But I think mechanizing the kasrkin might be one step on the way.
And adding whiteshields to form ”need a shovel to move formations” could be another. Although I’d rather see pure whiteshield coys instead. Commander + 24 units, no other upgrades than fire support?

About list structure, what about moving kasrkin to a third category (as chaos lists) with a 1:1 ratio to hq/Inf/whiteshield coys?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:39 pm 
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I don’t see a lot of action for the Stormlords, but my experience with them indicates that 150 is VERY aggressively costed. There’s an absolutely withering amount of AP on them - an average of 5.17 hits on nine dice. 175 would be better, IMO. Otherwise, I agree with pretty much all the changes I’ve seen.

Also a little surprised that so few Stormswords are in attendence - those are really good in both Cadians and Minervans. I suppose model availability is part of it.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:04 am 
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Elrik wrote:
About list structure, what about moving kasrkin to a third category (as chaos lists) with a 1:1 ratio to hq/Inf/whiteshield coys?


I agree and would like to do this but am mindful it could have a massive impact on people’s collections....

If put to a vote, which I think something as fundamental as this probably should be, I don’t think it’d win.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:51 pm 
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I don’t see a lot of action for the Stormlords, but my experience with them indicates that 150 is VERY aggressively costed. There’s an absolutely withering amount of AP on them - an average of 5.17 hits on nine dice. 175 would be better, IMO. Otherwise, I agree with pretty much all the changes I’ve seen.

Also a little surprised that so few Stormswords are in attendence - those are really good in both Cadians and Minervans. I suppose model availability is part of it.


Stormswords, together with Shadowswords, are the only SHTs I use. 45 cm range + disrupt on that gun is amazing both for AP and AT roles. Almost always one in my Cadian list for support.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:48 pm 
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Where's the potential movement on this list? Is it likely to stay stable for a while?

Got a tournament I'm keen to take them to in about 4 months, but I've got to drop some dollars on them and am a slow painter, so I need to plan now..

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:44 pm 
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Most probably will stay stable for at least a year seeing the activity save if there is development done in the background like last one in Krieg, but if i were in your shoes i would make sure i can play with those miniatures with another lists, as apart from being developmental there is talks around almost every core formation.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:13 pm 
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This list in the current version and Steel Legion are pretty easy to build an overlap for. In example,
Step 1: Paint infantry. Paint 2 stormlords. Paint 7 Chimeras for them.
Step 2: ...
Step 3: PROFIT!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:02 pm 
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Where's the potential movement on this list? Is it likely to stay stable for a while?

Got a tournament I'm keen to take them to in about 4 months, but I've got to drop some dollars on them and am a slow painter, so I need to plan now..


I’d say your safe, the Steel Legion list changes have been waiting in the wings of the ERC for well over a year now!

But you can’t go wrong painting infantry and Chimera!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:28 pm 
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Cool, thanks.

I'm actually porting across from SL, for a break from big infantry units in chimeras ;D
Love the DiD (not a) Leviaithan, been trying to find an excuse to get it on the table. Looks like now's the time!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:57 pm 
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Sweet then yeah just plunk down 2 stormlord proxies and you're all set to go with your SL infantry.
Similar to the sentinels, paint up 6 and then just take only 4 with SL (or add 2 more to your existing SL collection)

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