Dobbsy wrote:
Ginger, as Rules King
can you please finalise this unit's stats? I'm happy to go with Jimmy's optional config idea here and he seems the only one giving it any actual play testing. I would probably set points cost at 200 for squadron of 2.
Cheers!
I can't believe we're seriously considering adopting stats as per jimmyzimms for the Storm Talon. Black Legion loves putting in upgradable options in when he converts epic stats, but the game is more abstracted than that.
No other aircraft in the entire Epic Armageddon game has a weapon upgrade option and that's VERY strong precedent for the Storm Talon not having one either.
There's nothing particularly in the background about there being two distinct roles for them (like with the Predators and their Annihilator and Destructor load-outs) and there's no need for Storm Talons to have a upgradeable option for what's only a secondary weapon in any case. It's unnecessary detail and should be abstracted to one weapon for epic.
There's lots of 40k detail in terms of optional upgrades and weapons:
40k Thunderbolts can carry bombs instead of AT rockets.
40k Lightning can carry bombs or AA rockets.
Ork Fighta-Bommerz have loads of weapon options with AT rokkits and Burnas or Shootaz
40k Phoenix bombers can replace their have a Pulse Laser with twin-linked Bright Lances or Star Cannons
40k Vampire Raiders can reduce their transport capacity a bit to carry a Pulse Laser or Missile Launchers as on the Phoenix.
40k Hell Talons can have Reaper Autocannons instead of
NONE of these minor weapon options have made it into Epic and nor should they.
Even Jimmy himself says he only put in the option Typhoon upgrade to address a weakness in the IH list. Please drop it for regular use.
They're both too busy to play at the moment but I hope to get some playtest games in with the Storm Talon against Onxy and Matt Shadowlord in the not so distant fututre and I'd like to test twin-heavy bolters only, probably otherwise as Jimmy stats, 2 for 200.