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Scions of Iron, v1.5

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:35 pm 
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Don't Vindicators get walker now, or has that been dropped?

As well, if you're going to have something that is worth +35 points, would it be possible to also have something worth +65 points to allow for even 100 point increments? The base Land Speeder is +35 points, the Tornado +50, with the Typhoon at +60 points.

Setting the Typhoon at +65 just allows for nice 100s... if you buy one, you're *still* gonna be spending that 5 points as waste.


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 Post subject: Re: Scions of Iron, v1.5
PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:26 am 
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It's a five speeder formation, which means 4x Standard and a Typhoon is 200 even. Making Typhoons 65 would more likely waste 20pt than not waste 5pt.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:33 am 
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It's a five speeder formation, which means 4x Standard and a Typhoon is 200 even. Making Typhoons 65 would more likely waste 20pt than not waste 5pt.

Land Speeders are only an upgrade to other detachments in the Scions list, as in "Add up to three" to Bikes or Scouts Detachments.

There is no standalone Land Speeders formation in the Scions list.


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 Post subject: Re: Scions of Iron, v1.5
PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:34 am 
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And there go my reading skills again... I think I thought I was in one of the other Marine gripe-fests...

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:05 am 
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Hena wrote:
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Don't Vindicators get walker now, or has that been dropped?

It was never slated to get it. I was originally suggesting price drop or Walker and people wanted price drop.


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At the price drop and Walker, I still struggle to see how Vindicators are a viable choice.

We have 2 lists that I know of pricing this formation at 225 points and with Walker. Are you really going to be this adamant on your decisions even though we have people who actively contribute and (well in my case) play often enough that our voices are being ignored?

Seriously, when was the last time you took formations of these and were happy with your selection?

They are rubbish at 250 points - especially without Walker.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:33 pm 
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People wanted both, Hena.

The NetEA army list compendium currently has it with Walker.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:49 pm 
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Simulated Knave wrote:
The NetEA army list compendium currently has it with Walker.


Even if it was an error, it did something that the should have been done; placing ideas out for a short time and tested to gain feedback.

It has a lot of support. I cannot understand why the feedback isn't being taken on seriously.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:37 pm 
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Why the reduced vehicle costs for the upgrades (not that I disagree)?

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How come the Tacticals have their heavy weapon stats changed?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:33 am 
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How come the Tacticals have their heavy weapon stats changed?

Yes, what is the reason for this, particularly a generic "heavy weapon"?

It just seems unnecessary, I'd advise just returning them to the standard Marine Missile Launcher.


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