It's true, I can't imagine anyone with more cursed dice than Ginger.

Playtesting a few items tonight, should have a release up after that.

Squad Leader's the game for you.

Can I get some general thoughts on FF2+ on Purgation Knights? In a game, even the 4x FF2+ shots from a 275 pt formation of 4 vs larger points of ork boys (approximately 9000 stands) drew a 'what, they hit on 2+?' reaction. The other option originay was to have 2x FF4+ shots per stand- likely to hit more times yet somehow opponents are more comfortable with it.

TL;DR they are better than devastators but my opponents shirk at 2+

I'd go with 3+ to start with JB. It just seems like a nicer way to ease them into shape and make people more accepting of them. It's on par with Devastators so it's likely more palatable to most people. Sure they have a psychic ability to hit stuff out of sight but IMO that just means they can... well.. hit stuff out of sight and doesn't necessarily make them better shooters etc than e.g. say the Long Fangs (who are supposed to be able to snipe with heavy weapons etc).

Just my 2 cents.

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I have updated the Grey Knights army list, you can find it here:

Grey Knights 1.3.1 PDF
It still remains of course experimental. I hope to get some miniatures on the table during the holidays

I made a fairly hefty update summarised below

*reduced many stats
*brought points more in line with Astartes changes
*eliminated Dreadknight formations as they served too similar a role to terminators, reduced dreadknights in line with 40K faq rulings
*removed warp quake rule
*added may not garrison rule (taken from Eldar)
*added autocannons option back to the dreadnought. Since they cannot garrison or teleport, it doesn't interrupt the style so much.
*added imperial agent options to the inquisitorial warband for flexibility to the only garrison capable unit
*changed the psi-titan back to a more classic warlord based configuration.
*removed size options for interceptors and purgation
*fixed references to redundant units
*other stuff marked in red.

Bah! and I thought I'd finished it for the army book! Now I have to go and make changes again!

You'll need to update my Adeptus Ministorum too; I'm releasing a new version today.

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Epic: Hive Development Thread

D'Oh!

C'mon, isn't there a deadline here somewhere...?

Well if you want to Dobbsy.
I spotted some spelling grammar errors and references to removed units in some of the description text, I have updated the document to 1.3.1 (links updated)

Grey Knights 1.3.1 PDF

Vindicare Assassin stats are missing the To Hit value for the 30cm shot. I assume MW5+? Also aren't Vindicare's solo gun men? Would it be better as a character upgrade rather than a INF unit?

Assassin's aren't allowed to join squads in 40k, last I checked.

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Yes but they also don't run around in squad-size units.... At least as a character the abstraction means that he's maybe nearby etc. rather than in the squad. Actually discussing this makes me think more and more that assassins just aren't Epic material

whoops yes, i messed that up a bit. was supposed to be MW5+ on the 30cm ranged shot.

There were many requests to include so I have for testing purposes.

I don't necessarily have a prob with modelling an individual assassin on a stand as a unit, as being a vindicare it can be made into an excellent dioroama, and they are one man armies just like a dreadnought and such 120+ pt 40k units. It's just slightly out of the ordinary.

EDIT: something I just thought of, you could potentially add the inquisitor character to the vindicare stand. I don't know if that's wrong or excellent ;-)