Beefcake4000 wrote:
Tiny-Tim wrote:
That is definitely worth testing.
The problem is that your forcing the list into a core of warriors that are really crap compared to approved necrons. Combined with the substantial hits to portals and living metal I'd be struggling to justify why I'd play this version rather than core. The option becomes play the fluffy but weak rons or the more limited but effective approved list. Not that appealing.
If anything the warriors and should be cheaper to justify the stats as should the flayed ones. Consider the imperial stormtroopers as a contrast for 175pts I get 8 of them with similar stats, yes they can't do a portal assault but they will get inspiring and a macro cc attack for free.
I can see what the fluff motivation behind the stats change but they should still be in line with the core troops for points, there are no buffs in this list to justify the points cost. I reckon immortals re find considering stats and abilities
Can't say I agree with this, the Sautekh warriors are weaker but the list is arguably stronger.
Sautekh list pros over standard list- (roughly)
1.Fliers (good fliers too, one even has a portal on it which is great for late game objective grabbing/contesting, one has a MW shot and the other is an extremely effective bomber)
2. Reasonable ranged weapons. Very handy for preventing/mixing up strategy options. Mears castle strategy isn't the go to counter for Necrons.
3. Being able to take AA, large war engines and a supreme commander in the same list.
4. More afordable large Warengines
5. Points drop on warriors (25pts)
6. Points drop on monoliths (25pts)
7. Non WE AA.
Cons from the standard list:
1. Armour nerf on warriors and flayed ones
2. Living metal vs TK shots (in practice this has made fairly little difference)
3. No more monster Ctan supreme commander (I like the old C'tan!)
4. Can't portal off the board.
5. Blast markers for using portals on broken formations. (Would consider dropping this though as its not very clean, and in practice doesn't make a huge difference most of the time).
6. No phase out (depending on the situation).
Comparitively the warriors going from 4 to 5 armour is quite significant when looking at the formation out of context with the lists. The Necron Raider warriors were the back bone of the list. With the Sautekh list they aren't required to be nearly as central to strategy. Also Storm troopers are 200 pts (unless there was a change that isn't in the approved list that I am ignorant of) for a group of 8. They don't regenerate, they don't have a 1+ activation, and no portals. Add 50 points and they can get a MW and inspiring also. I would be open to changing the cost to 175 if the immortals were moved to support.
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