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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:28 am 
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Ginger wrote:
I am having difficulty accessing this file.
Could you check that it is still Ok
Ok - managed to get to the FAQ. Seems you need to navigate from the main page for the Net-EA tournament pack, rather than using the link at the top of this thread.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:41 am 
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Not sure why the link in the thread isn't working for you, I just tried it from home with no issue.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:42 am 
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Further to the OW question here, I would suggest the following modifications to the FAQ:-

Q: A formation carries out an action that involves a move but none of the units physically move, is it still susceptible to overwatch?
A: Yes. Any action that includes one of more moves (advance, engage, double, march and possibly marshal, hold and special actions) is considered a move for the purposes of overwatch, even if units moved 0cm.
Withdrawal and Consolidation moves also trigger Overwatch, but as both are optional a player can choose not to move the formation at all, thus avoiding overwatch.

Q: Do units that enter play via a special rule (landing, planetfall, self planetfall, teleporting, tunneling, being summoned or swarmed) trigger overwatch fire?
A: No. While these contain forms of movement, Overwatch is only triggered by completing a 'ground' move or disembarking troops.


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 Post subject: Re: NetEA FAQ errors/typos
PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:42 pm 
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Pushing an update with these in a few.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:49 pm 
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Just seen a post relating to transports and consolidation here.

This caused me to refer to Neal's original post in the Master FAQ, which states:-
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1.12.9 Winner Consolidates

Q: A Transport moves 30cm, unloads troops who then participate in the Assault. If they win can the Transport pick up the units as part of its Consolidation Move?
A: Yes. The Consolidation Move is considered a movement and as per section 1.7.5 Transports can pick up units as part of any movement.

Q: Can a unit that disembarked from a War Engine to take part in an Assault use its consolidation move to get back into the War Engine?
A: Yes it can. However, if it does so then the War Engine loses its own Consolidation move (and War Engine Transport Aircraft may not make a Disengagement move at the end of the turn) as it has to wait around while the troops climb back on board. Note that the War Engine may make a Consolidation move (or a Disengagement move if it is an aircraft) if no troops embark upon it.



It seems that the updated FAQ in the tournament pack has incorrectly omitted the reference to War engines, making this restriction much wider than it should be.

FWIW, this particular FAQ was explaining the difference between embarking and disembarking with a WE as opposed to normal transport. The rules are intentionally worded to prevent troops gaining distance unfairly by embarking on a WE which subsequently moves.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:07 pm 
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It would also be useful if the first of those two FAQs Ginger quoted would clarify whether the infantry can make a consolidation move first, and then the transport vehicle pick them up during its consolidation move.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:50 pm 
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1.12.6 is missing the clause about Supporting Fire hits having to be allocated to units taking part in the assault.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:14 pm 
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IJW Wartrader wrote:
1.12.6 is missing the clause about Supporting Fire hits having to be allocated to units taking part in the assault.


In what? It's in both the PDF and the web page.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:12 pm 
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All I can see is 'and then allocate hits and make saving throws as you would do for shooting attacks'.

However I'm now not sure if this is an error in the NetEA PDF or all the way back in the 2009 rules. The original rulebook had 'However, any hits scored may only be applied to enemy units that are actually taking part in the assault.' And that seems to have disappeared totally.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:37 pm 
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The original PDFs were replaced with what's in the errata:

http://www.net-armageddon.org/sites/def ... a_2008.pdf

When the 09 PDFs were put together, some of the errata from 1.12.6 was accidentally omitted.

http://www.net-armageddon.org/sites/def ... _Oct09.pdf

Specifically here:

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In this case ‘directly involved’ means belonging to the attacking or *** position to attack


What's in the TP now is what's in the errata:

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Both sides may call upon support unless the defender has been wiped out or the attack stalled as described above. Calling on support allows units from other formations to attack with their firefight value if they are within 15cm and have a line of fire to an enemy unit directly involved in the assault. In this case "directly involved" means belonging to the attacking or defending formation(s) and in a position to attack. This rule represents units from both sides that are not directly involved in the assault lending supporting fire when they see their friends coming under attack. Units from formations that are either Broken or Marched this turn cannot lend support.

Roll to hit using the firefight values of the supporting formations, and then allocate hits and make saving throws as you would do for shooting attacks. Once all casualties have been removed you must work out the result of the attack (see 1.12.7).


Both here:
http://www.tp.net-armageddon.org/tourna ... rting-fire

And here:
http://www.tp.net-armageddon.org/pdfs/n ... -03-30.pdf

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:43 pm 
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I've taken this to the main EA forum as a rules question instead.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=29530

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