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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:35 am 
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Sniper update is not a type. It is only one.


And what about the Salamander's list? Sniper upgrade is for every unit in Salamander army list.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:44 pm 
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Yup, it definitely is.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:57 am 
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The sniper upgrade is something that has been under discussion for a while, and for example has been made into an entire formation upgrade in the EpicUK list but not the NetEA codex list (yet). One for the marine development topic.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:26 am 
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Gorgons in the krieg list have a 6+ save should be a 4+


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:52 pm 
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Dave, when will we have the new tournament pack? Year 2014 is near to end, and it's supossed to be the 2014 pack...

And, of course: thank you very much for your job! ;)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:44 pm 
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Guys, I've reworked things so the datasheet order is now: Characters, Infantry, Light Vehicles, Armoured Vehicles, War Engines, Aircraft, Spacecraft, Special. Within each of those units are in alphabetical order by their names.

Can people peruise these? If there's errors they'll be something like this:

A unit is missing from or not needed in the datasheet
A unit with a similar name is in the wrong datasheet (somethingl like Ork Dreadnought in a Marine list)
A unit is not in the correct order

http://www.tp.net-armageddon.org/pdfs/

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:01 pm 
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Great will check. I assume you're still working on AMTL and haven't overlooked it?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:08 pm 
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Ya, been reworking the backend to something better. At this point it's FAQs, AMTL and one last review.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:34 pm 
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Dave wrote:
Guys, I've reworked things so the datasheet order is now: Characters, Infantry, Light Vehicles, Armoured Vehicles, War Engines, Aircraft, Spacecraft, Special. Within each of those units are in alphabetical order by their names.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:09 pm 
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Steel Legion:
-SHT has "Any three of the following units: Baneblade, Shadowsword" when previously it also had "in any combination". Not sure the current wording is clear that you can have any mixture. If I read that with no prior experience I am sure I would not think so.
-Chimera note in the Upgrade should also have the clarification "may not take more than 1 Chimera
per unit in the formation." otherwise you can buy as many extras as you want in this version.
-Upgrade has difference in number of upgrades/type per formation*
2014 Compendium=> (Up to three upgrades may be added to each Steel Legion Company)
Draft TP=> (Up to three company upgrades may be taken once per company.)
-Artillery Battery should have "units of the same type" *
-Thunderbolt Squadron should be 150 points not 175 *
-Imperial Guard Commander should be cc 6+, Armour 6+, FF 5+
-Imperial Guard Infantry note should include the "(rounding up)" regarding Autocannon shots
-Guard Sniper should have sniper noted on the weapon, not the unit (otherwise they get sniper in assault as well) *

* Not sure if this was changed or mistake


General consistency note: If you're going to remove some of the unit's Small Arms entries (not including one that have specials) you should then be consistent across units. e.g. Rough Riders lost the Chainsword but kept the Laspistols Small Arms lines. Either both should be kept or both dumped.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:05 pm 
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Thanks for all the hard work. Read through the Cultist list and found these small typos or similar

1 chaos cultists have some blank pages...
2 Arch heretic and Icon bearer should swap places
3 This is not new but shouldn't chaos hounds etc have some kind of weapon? Mutants have firearms...
4 Daemon Prince lost their "may count as Ogryns...)
5 Daemonic Beast should loose their "costs one point to summon"
6 On the chimera. It can carry any infantry except Rough riders. I would like this to be used all over this list so change the wording on the land transporter and take away all the "counts as infantry" please :) Also the Rough riders could be substituted with the wording "mounted" for a more general use? It would also be slimmer if the Ogryn counts as 2 units would appear on the Ogryn and similar units. "counts as two units when being transported"?
7 Hellfire Cannon has MW stated twice. Should be MW4+ only
8 Plague tower and Silver Tower should change places


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jimmyzimms wrote:
-SHT has "Any three of the following units: Baneblade, Shadowsword" when previously it also had "in any combination". Not sure the current wording is clear that you can have any mixture. If I read that with no prior experience I am sure I would not think so.


The style is "Any x of the following units: a, b, c" is a mixture (as from the Orks list). As opposed to "Any X a, b, c" means all the same type (as per the SL arty battery).

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-Upgrade has difference in number of upgrades/type per formation*
2014 Compendium=> (Up to three upgrades may be added to each Steel Legion Company)
Draft TP=> (Up to three company upgrades may be taken once per company.)


TP is correct, check the ORB.

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-Artillery Battery should have "units of the same type" *


See style above.

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-Imperial Guard Commander should be cc 6+, Armour 6+, FF 5+


He's CC5+, check ORB.

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-Imperial Guard Infantry note should include the "(rounding up)" regarding Autocannon shots


Dropped it, as per Rounding in 1.14.

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-Guard Sniper should have sniper noted on the weapon, not the unit (otherwise they get sniper in assault as well)


TP is right, check ORB.

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General consistency note: If you're going to remove some of the unit's Small Arms entries (not including one that have specials) you should then be consistent across units. e.g. Rough Riders lost the Chainsword but kept the Laspistols Small Arms lines. Either both should be kept or both dumped.


All Assault Weapons with no special rules have been removed, Small Arms without special rules have been left if they're the ony weapon the unit has (like a Rhino) as it needs to be there for purposes of suppression.

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Thanks for all the hard work. Read through the Cultist list and found these small typos or similar

1 chaos cultists have some blank pages...
2 Arch heretic and Icon bearer should swap places
3 This is not new but shouldn't chaos hounds etc have some kind of weapon? Mutants have firearms...
4 Daemon Prince lost their "may count as Ogryns...)
5 Daemonic Beast should loose their "costs one point to summon"
6 On the chimera. It can carry any infantry except Rough riders. I would like this to be used all over this list so change the wording on the land transporter and take away all the "counts as infantry" please :) Also the Rough riders could be substituted with the wording "mounted" for a more general use? It would also be slimmer if the Ogryn counts as 2 units would appear on the Ogryn and similar units. "counts as two units when being transported"?
7 Hellfire Cannon has MW stated twice. Should be MW4+ only
8 Plague tower and Silver Tower should change places


1. Those are intential, all datasheets start on a right page for ease of use.
3. Nope, they have no FF so don't need a weapon.

I'll ook into the transport stuff, it'll be a hassle.

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cool. Any the others? Legit or missed?

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If I didn't list it I should have changed it.

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