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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:27 am 
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question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields ? yay/nay?

o and necrons - can or cant use broken formations that have unused portals?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:30 am 
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Crossfire reduces holofields
Broken portals can be used.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:38 am 
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3min's? ooo your good. well how about these...

if you lose a unit to difficult terrain after which you cant make it to engagement range, what happens?

and dose teleporting set off over watch? and what about engaging in a air assault? (set it off?)

can the 1 unit give supporting fire to two different engagements?

can space craft shoot all there weapons (assuming it has 2 or more) and can they be at different targets?

can units on over watch fire indirect?

do you roll critical for war engine difficult terrain checks? (assuming they take a damage point?)


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:02 am 
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if you lose a unit to difficult terrain after which you cant make it to engagement range, what happens?
I'd assume "they make the move, and then nothing else happens"

and dose teleporting set off over watch? and what about engaging in a air assault? (set it off?)
No, and Yes.

can the 1 unit give supporting fire to two different engagements?
Yes

can space craft shoot all there weapons (assuming it has 2 or more) and can they be at different targets?
Yes and Yes

can units on over watch fire indirect?
No

do you roll critical for war engine difficult terrain checks? (assuming they take a damage point?)
Yes

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:13 am 
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zombocom wrote:
Crossfire reduces holofields

That's lame donkey poo sauce.....Kinda odd


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:53 am 
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I think it makes sense.
It is actually harder to hide or fake your position when you're shot at from two direction.
That's the whole idea of triangulation.


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Sniper also reduces holofields, if you can find any AT weapon with sniper of course.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:16 pm 
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zombocom wrote:
Sniper also reduces holofields, if you can find any AT weapon with sniper of course.

EUK Destroyer Tank Hunters.

I think that's it.

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Jaggedtoothgrin got all the answers right, but just to expand on one of them...

Lord Aaron wrote:
and dose teleporting set off over watch? and what about engaging in a air assault? (set it off?)

Overwatch requires an "on the ground" move. Landing aircraft and planetfall do not trigger OW because they do not move the minis "on the ground." Planetfall literally now no move on the board and landing aircraft do so with an aircraft approach move, not an "on the ground" move, only changing to a ground unit at the end of the move. However, troops dismounting is "on the ground" and triggers OW as normal.

So, aircraft can land/fire without triggering OW, and could even perform an air assault without triggering OW, as long as no troops dismounted.


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there is now a worm in my brain...

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 Post subject: Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields
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Does being assaulted/engaged remove overwatch status?

What does it cost an aircraft to jink AFTER it has run its mission? It looks like nothing, no disadvantage, just a free 4+ for everything.

Does jinking at least remove the aircraft's ability to provide AA cover from that point on?

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Lsrwolf wrote:
Does being assaulted/engaged remove overwatch status?

No, the assaulted formation would keep overwatch unless it was broken after the assault is resolved.

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What does it cost an aircraft to jink AFTER it has run its mission? It looks like nothing, no disadvantage, just a free 4+ for everything.
Does jinking at least remove the aircraft's ability to provide AA cover from that point on?

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There is no penalty to an AC jinking after carrying out its ground attack. I see no reason why it would lose its AA by doing so either.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:21 pm 
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Because the jinking rules say that after jinking you cannot shoot. AA is still considered shooting, right?

Forcing an AC that is on CAP to jink as a result of an Intercept attack removes its ability to effectively CAP as well.

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AA is still considered shooting, right?

I would assume so.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:37 pm 
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Ok here is the text for jink

Quote:
Fighters and fighter-bombers can choose to ‘jink’ when
they have to make a saving throw. Jinking represents the
pilot desperately swerving his plane to one side in order
to try and dodge the enemy attack. All of the aircraft in a
formation must jink, or none at all. Aircraft that jink
receive a 4+ saving throw instead of their normal armour
save but lose their attack if they have not already taken it
(they are concentrating on dodging enemy bullets). Place
a suitable marker on the aircraft as a reminder it can’t
shoot.


So they do indeed lose their attack. Then we look at Flak Attacks and it says

Quote:
AA weapons are designed to fire defensively against an
attacking enemy aircraft, and may therefore shoot
immediately after an enemy aircraft formation makes an
approach move but before it makes its attack. This is
called a flak attack. Note that aircraft carrying out a
ground attack mission that are armed with AA weapons
may shoot at enemy interceptors that fall within the AA
weapon’s fire arc. Making a flak attack does not remove
overwatch status from a ground formation.
Flak attacks may not be carried out by units belonging to
a formation that is marching or broken. This aside, flak
attacks are a ‘free’ or bonus attack, and making a flak
attack does not stop the unit attacking again later in the
same turn. What’s more, a flak weapon can make any
number of flak attacks per turn against different aircraft
formations, as long as it does not attack the same aircraft
formation more than once in a turn.


So the question is can a free/bonus attack ever be removed. Ground flak can be suppressed by BM's but as they don't effect AC in the same manner I'd rule that even if you jink, you still get to flak AC that end their movement in range and arc.

You can't Intercept a formation on CAP until after it has taken its activation, as although it is placed on your table edge it hasn't entered play, merely indicated where it shall enter play when activated.


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