(CyberShadow @ Feb. 08 2008,08:56)
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(CyberShadow @ Feb. 07 2008,22:01)
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Anyway, sorry for hijacking this thread. We now return you to your regular, scheduled broadcast...
Or, possibly, not.
Sorry Serg.
After searching around I found that the Dacians will be featured in book five, due out in June... so that is preordered too. My only consolation is that I probably wont want the next book, whatever it is. I seem only to want to pick up the odd numbered ones!
Also, I did a quick search on the FoG boards and found the basing. 60mm frontage for 28mm troops. I will be using this base size for all troops, no matter what scale.
Basing is one of the things that really irritates me about DBx. It is real hurdle for new wargamers and I think is mostly unneccesary.
I made a concious decision a while ago to pretty much throw any basing restrictions out of the window. I will be basing everything using VBs basing for 15mm - whether this is VB 6mm stuff or even FoG 10mm. I just cant be bothered to worry about base depths and buying in about four different sizes of bases.
In VB 15mm, base frontage is 60mm and there are two types of bases only - standard troops with a 40mm depth (I think) and square 40mm commander bases. Nice and simple. It also allows you to get 10-12 15mm troops on a base, so it actually looks more like a unit. And, when I get my 6mm Greeks on the same bases, I can get four ranks of about 6-8 troops each. Now that is a unit. Put four of these together for a FoG battlegroup and it is starting to look interesting.
Sorry for ranting, but I also have a question. As far as I understand it, the base actually represents the area of ground covered by the unit and the figures just let you know what the unit is. If this is the case, why bother with changing the ground scale when you change the figure scale? It should not matter at all what scale the figure is on the base, and the base size and ground scale should always be the same.
People want as many figures on a base in 25mm as the 15mm scale, that means they have to use bigger bases - hence the ground scale changes. However 6mm players generally use 15mm base sizes and double or quadruple the number of figures on each base - ie they keep the same ground scale as you suggest (and it looks good!).
Also the bases actually represent the unit plus some extra space before and behind it. The base sizes are all overly deep compared to what the unit size is, simply because the figures take up that much room, ie it's a practical measure.
That's also why in DBx skirmishers in base contact are not actually in hand to hand combat, they will just be at effective missile range (which was still very close historically otherwise they wouldn't have enough power in the shot - ie horse archers would gallop past heavy infantry at 20 paces and the arrows would go straight through a roman shield at that range, and the infantry couldn't catch them either).
Your plan for using V&B should work fine for DBx, not so sure about FOG yet but pretty sure that would be fine too. In fact if you were to keep track of casualties etc with dice or something it would also work for WAB.