I'm going to convert my Vigilant to a Spector, similar to an AC-130. It is very much very much a WIP/" still on the drawing board" ... at this point ...
IIRC, NetEpic had stats for that ...
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| Author: | junkstar [ Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
Sorry if this has been done before, however been thinking (scary in its own context), Imperial Navy Allies; Could a Vigilant (EW/Recon) be factored in as an additional plane for TB/Marauders at cost to give them a hit modifier? So an additional Vigilant - 1 Vigilant can fly with multiple TB flights TB Sqn + Vigilant = 200 points; -1 to hit & IC however TBs retain their FB turning whereas Vigilant stays on table (assumed it is high enough to carryout recon and not get hit, however can be attacked by air intercept) Marauder + Vigilant = 300 points -1 to hit & IC Colossus (cannot take Vigilant upgrade) Upgrade x1 Marauder to Colossus 275 Points MW2+ TK IC Slow. |
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
just so I can follow this correctly, you're basically headspacing about how to make an EA inclusion of that really cool FW Vigilant model in the rules. Your idea is that they give the accompanying formation ( s? ) a hit modifier representing their ECW features? |
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| Author: | junkstar [ Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
jimmyzimms wrote: just so I can follow this correctly, you're basically headspacing about how to make an EA inclusion of that really cool FW Vigilant model in the rules. Your idea is that they give the accompanying formation ( s? ) a hit modifier representing their ECW features? yarp - reason being is that the ECW/eye in the sky would be able to designate targets with pin point precision. IC due to its ability to analyse a unit in covers dispersal, IOT maximise approach speed, release point & yield to full effect |
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| Author: | Legion 4 [ Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
I'm going to convert my Vigilant to a Spector, similar to an AC-130. It is very much very much a WIP/" still on the drawing board" ... at this point ... IIRC, NetEpic had stats for that ...
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| Author: | junkstar [ Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
More thoughts on the Marauder Variants - Vigilant - Which ever formation it flies with, its extensive ECM pack gives a +1 modifier on all AA attacks ( creates multiple ghost radar images etc) Colossis - on its bombing run moves as a bomber, post release however its able to move as a fighter/bomber (rationale being its shedded half its weight) so is able to Jink Colossus - if its destroyed with its ordnance (ie bomb underslung still) then ALL fliers with 20cm automatically take a hit (10000kg bomb, shreds the colossus into a massive flak/debris field) |
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
The Colossus is already in the Cadian list so reinventing it probably isn't a good idea. I like the concepts for the Vigilant. Too bad I don't have one myself but to be truthful, it should have had a dish on top |
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| Author: | junkstar [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
jimmyzimms wrote: The Colossus is already in the Cadian list so reinventing it probably isn't a good idea. I like the concepts for the Vigilant. Too bad I don't have one myself but to be truthful, it should have had a dish on top TKS Shipwrights has the AWACS version with a dish |
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| Author: | junkstar [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
The Elysians variants differ to the Steel Legion and Imperial Navy Allies as in WE 2 DC and different weapon loadouts. |
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| Author: | junkstar [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
This then leads on could the Destroyer variant be brought in? Weapon loadout akin to the Elysian one but not a WE and a cost difference, more inline with the Marauder Bomber? |
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
Been years since I've played that Elysian list but IIRC they used the DKoK base stats with the heavy bomber silliness. Note: we also have the Destroyers in the Tallarn concept list from Apocalypse and I. Just to add to the mess |
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| Author: | junkstar [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
Cheers buddy will take a look at that, and try to come up with some commonality to play test with |
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
You just want to show off your cool bombers 
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| Author: | junkstar [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
Inspired by other great painters like yourself, Largo etc etc. In relation to 'Lets make epic great again' thread, perhaps I'll just work on stats etc for the IN. |
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Marauder Vigilant & Colossus |
Your raining death flyers are awesome and expect your idea to be pilfered on my next round of bombers
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