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Hojyn
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Post subject: Iyanden suggestions Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:10 pm |
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Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:52 am Posts: 876 Location: Brest - France
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Hi,
I posted the following suggestions for Iyanden in my battle report, but I thought I might as well put them in a separate thread to facilitate (and encourage!) discussion.
Quick recap:
According to MC23 and several other playtest results, a 6-strong Spirit Warhost, able to embark in a Vampire Raider, was found too strong at 350 points.
MC23 then suggested 4-strong formations for 250 and limiting the Vampire Raiders to a mawimum of 4 Wraithguards per Vampire. After playtest (only one game, though...), I got the impression that, while the Vampire-borne Spirit Warhosts were fine (not as tough but still able to do some damage), the Spirit Warhost deplyed via webway portals of Wave Serpents were a bit weak, lacking either the mobility or the toughness necessary to be a real threat on the battlefield.
Having said all this, here's what I suggest:
* Wraithguards take up two space in Vampire Raiders (as per MC23's suggestion).
* Spirit Warhost: - 4 Wraithguards for 250 points. - Upgrade A: +2 Wraithguards for +125 points, and optional Wave Serpents for + 50 each (must take enough WS to transport the whole formation). - Upgrade B: + 3 Wraithlords for + 175 points. If Upgrade B is taken, then no Wave Serpent may be taken.
* Reduce the cost of the Wraithseer (Supreme Commander) to 75 points.
With this proposition, the player would have to choose whether to use a smaller formation for an air assault or bigger one for deployment via portals or Wave Serpent.
What do you think?
BTW, is MC23's still around? I haven't seen him post in a while and I'd really like to have his thoughts on the subject.
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MC23
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Post subject: Iyanden suggestions Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:07 am |
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Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:27 am Posts: 174
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Quote (Hojyn @ 18 Jan. 2006 (17:10)) | What do you think?
BTW, is MC23's still around? I haven't seen him post in a while and I'd really like to have his thoughts on the subject. | As I've said in another post. My main computer died and getting it running and then having to replace all the lost data has taken up a lot of my time. It will be a while before I'm back to a daily prescence here.
I'm a little uncertain if the Spirit Host should have a variable number of Wraithguard but I guess playing is one way to find out if it possibly be abusive.
_________________ I am MC23
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Hojyn
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Post subject: Iyanden suggestions Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:37 pm |
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Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:52 am Posts: 876 Location: Brest - France
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Quote (MC23 @ 19 Jan. 2006 (04:07)) | As I've said in another post. My main computer died and getting it running and then having to replace all the lost data has taken up a lot of my time. It will be a while before I'm back to a daily prescence here.
I'm a little uncertain if the Spirit Host should have a variable number of Wraithguard but I guess playing is one way to find out if it possibly be abusive. | Ouch, sorry to hear about your computer crash, it's always a pain when it happens...
I'll see if I can get a game or two (not before a few weeks, though) with a variable-size Spirit Warhost and see how it affects play balance.
Thanks for your answer and good luck getting your computer back in working order.
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