My issue with the armour isn't related to balance (which a batrep might address), just the feel.
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In summary, this would make all Harlequins marginally more resilient than other Eldar infantry. They become just as vulnerable as normal Aspects to barrages and 'normal' fire, though they can survive MW / TK fire as well. They also become as vulnerable as the weaker Aspects when assaulting anything that they cannot kill in First Strike.
Yes all of this sounds appropriate. In 40K they don't have a great save, but it is invulnerable (so they still have the save vs heavier weapons). By contrast to marines, who have a much better save but lose it with the heaviest weapons. I also agree it means it is important to ensure they are able to win the assaults, which is what I thought you were trying to do with all the first strike, seer rule etc.
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So in comparison
Five Harlequins become slightly worse than eight Howling Banshees which die horribly in most assaults.
Not exactly, they have 2 attacks each so more (and exactly the same average kills), but not all of them are first strike.
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Five Mimes become worse than eight Swooping Hawks, since Mimes cannot support other assaults or strike targets beyond 30cm.
8x4+ vs 10x3+, half of which are first strike macro? Not sure about that.
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Five Harlequin Bikes are slightly better than six standard ones but cost much more.
Quite a bit better IMO (again, 10 attacks...) but yes, more expensive. Though they are probably better than (and more comparable to) wild riders which are 250.
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If we go down this route I suspect we would need to make some significant changes in compensation including
- The five strong formations would probably need to be increased to at least six and possibly more,
- All formations would need a cost revision,
- Harlequins and Mimes would possibly need to boost their FF capacity,
- We would probably need a revision to transport options for speed and protection.
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Let's not overstate it: it's only three formations. But yes, I agree some changes would be in order, then price accordingly. Especially with the harlequins. They are already poor value compared to mimes but I agree a formation of 6 would be better. You could also/instead move the first strike onto the unit stat, this would make them absolutely fearsome, with a good chance of killing all or most of the enemy's good units before they can attack back. Then they would compare favourably to banshees and be certainly worth their points. Yes they would be a polarised list, but this is really what they should be like is it not?
Don't think anything needs to be done about FF really, they are min-maxed specialists and adding some minor firefight is not going to affect the game significantly but would make them more expensive than they need to be.
Overall all of the above can be revealed by testing, but I see no reason it can't be done. If Dark Eldar can win assaults with no armour whatsoever I don't see why harlies can't. A key factor is the webway rules, as it could well be that they don't need the same survivability as normal formations which spend much more time on the table.