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Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Clan 4.2

 Post subject: Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Clan 4.2
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:38 am 
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9-NOV-2015 - 4.2.1 the first update


G'day everyone,

After a bit of discussion and thought which you can see most discussed on pages #2 & #3 of this thread,
Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Clan 4.2.1 is ready for release to the wolves.

the change log:
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+ general typos and stream lining wording in ref sheet, eg "D" instead of disrupt, "L" instead of Lance etc.
+ Changed Revenant titans sonic lance to 2BP, D and 45cm
+ Guardians changed to 175 points and limited 0-1 per 1500pts
+ Increased the points of Inspiring to 100pts
+ Tremor Cannon changed to 0-1 option per titan formation, lost IC and D
+ D-Cannon changed to 0-1 option per titan formation
+ Fusion Lance changed to 0-1 option per titan formation
+ Star cannon changed to 25pts
+ Titan Bright lance changed to 50pts
+ Increased the points on the Titan Pulsar from 50 to 75
+ Single Revenant formations changed to 0-1 per 3,000pts
+ Added single weapon system upgrade (25pts) required per battle titan formation that has a pair of the same weapons. (Revenants exempt)
+ Revenant Pulse Laser increased to 25points each
+ Added Reaper cannon as a Scout Titan Weapon


Please see the attached file to this post.

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25-OCT-2015 - initial release post


Hi everyone,

Firstly thanks for your patience in waiting for the update regarding the Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan list. I am aware that there are many who are eagerly waiting to see "where to next" with this revision. I have been working behind the scenes of late and consulting with Tiny-Tim, PFE100 and Mic Fair regarding the direction of the list and how that fits with the general direction of all the Eldar lists moving forward. I feel the list is now in a good position for game testing with further changes or adjustments from there being highly likely. I am looking forward to working with everyone to progress the list. I do want acknowledge all those who have worked on the list prior to myself and hope to continue that good work together as a community.

Structural changes
1) Overhaul of the actual army list structure in particular selecting Warhosts, Revenant titans no longer making up core choices
2) Removed rangers and knights from the list
3) Restriction ratios for Warhosts / troupes changes to 1:3
4) Aircraft & spacecraft moved to a typical 1/3 allies structure players will be familiar with.
5) Layout and list aesthetics changed to suit / match Biel Tan 4.2


Stat changes
1) General Eldar units have been brought into line with Biel-Tan v 4.2
2) Dropped lance off sonic lances
3) Changed fusion lance to 30cm and TKD6
4) Re-do on the D-cannon to match a beefed up version of cobra D cannon.
5) Swapped Sprit Stones and Exarch names
6) Added Starcannon and Titan Bright Lance as BTW options
7) Added Spirit Stones and "2 Scout Titan Weapons may be chosen" to Revenants

If anyone spots typo's to please let me know ;D

I will start and link from this post, a battle report thread with my own first game & report with this list.

The file attached to this post will always be the most up to date and current version.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:41 am 
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Love your work Fudd

Im keen to play some games against you and the list mate


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:35 am 
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Good initial changes to the list Fudd, it looks a good platform to work from.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:01 pm 
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Nice changes so far, though as someone who has a lot of knights it's a tiny bit disheartening.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:59 am 
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Not really sold on my first read through i have to say.


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looks good. Way better than before!

But should the leader ability really cost 50 points? Inspiring is way better and costs 50p. i think 25 p is enough. And why not have spirit stones as leader upgrade like in the EpicUk lists? this will just be more confusing.

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Geckilian wrote:
Nice changes so far, though as someone who has a lot of knights it's a tiny bit disheartening.

Hi mate, the only drive to remove the knights from the list was to make sure that when, in the near future, we see the eldar knight stand alone list, they're more special. Knights would play a bigger role in a titan list than ever before due to the restructure ( in my opinion.)

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Not really sold on my first read through i have to say.

Hi Tim, thanks for taking the time to have a read. However we can't progress or make improvements with a closed comment like that, if you get the chance mate, i'd really like to hear why you're not sold and any issues that have driven you to this conclusion.


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looks good. Way better than before!

But should the leader ability really cost 50 points? Inspiring is way better and costs 50p. i think 25 p is enough. And why not have spirit stones as leader upgrade like in the EpicUk lists? this will just be more confusing.


Thanks mordoten!
Figuring out appropriate and balanced points for all types of upgrades found in this list will be the biggest hill we climb. But we can do it!
I agree with what you're saying about leader vs inspiring.
Not too sure on the spirit stone comment as it does upgrade the formation to have a leader Eg; Revenants can take spirit stones as an upgrade to gain the leader ability.
Where as the Phantom and Warlock don't need this as an upgrade as they come with it bog standard.

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Sorry mate, mixed them up somehow. They are as they should be!

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Yip I agree with you, and I will elaborate more in a future post, just super pushed for time with a new job at the moment but i will return! ha ha. On a side note congrats on the position appointment.


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Thanks Tim, looking forward to it mate.

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First battle report vs steel legion.
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Thanks for the report Greg, any thoughts on the list my friend?

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