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Fir Iolarion Eldar Titan Clan List 2.2

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:58 pm 
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Actually AFAIK, they're making them themselves. After all, bonesingers are ubiquitous

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:00 pm 
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Quite possibly you are correct Jimmy. Damn.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:12 pm 
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OK, but if we are just going to clone the Imperial list, then what is the point? Can't we be more creative than that?

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Eh? Ok.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:26 pm 
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I've played a couple of games with and against this list in the last few weeks with another one due tonight. It's really fun to play but both the guy I'm playing and I feel that the sonic lance is a bit overpowered. By way of comparison Squat Goliath Mega Cannons which cannot/can hardly move are 6bp, ignore cover, 120cm range and cost 300 points. They're roughly the same in power levelsl (have indirect fire and an extra bm vs lance and disrupt) and the goliaths have a much better range but are really, really vulnerable. It seems like by comparison the Revenant is more than a little overcooked. Any chance of a downgrade.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:00 pm 
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StevekCole wrote:
It seems like by comparison the Revenant is more than a little overcooked. Any chance of a downgrade.


I played a few games with Steve and agree the sonic glances are a problem. The unit consistently outdid the MW variant in every game, broke multiple expensive units and in 2 of the games performed better than the phantom. The combination of IC and Disrupt means low numbers to hit+disrupt= broken units.Even if the opponent rolls brilliantly for saves. From internal balance (there should be some reason to take the standard guns) and balance with other lists I think removing one of these special rules would make it at least "just an excellent unit."

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:14 pm 
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daemonkin wrote:
This may have been asked before but where can I get stats for the knights? And would it be duplication to include their stats in this list?

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As the list stands knights are in the list (as allies). If they are staying could someone please add their unit stats to the PDF?

I also agree with the 1+ big titan requirement. At the moment I can run 9 single revenants which gives me formidable aa defence and is completely over the top. Perhaps limit the revenants to a max of 2 formations per battle titan.

On the initiative discussion, I'd leave it as is with the changes to min big titans and max revenants. The double retain ability the warlock provides is enough of an incentive to take one, allowing a player of this army to try and reach the eldar players equivalent of Mecca which is a double retain triple engage with the units supporting each other.

Otherwise I'm still of the opinion that it would be war walkers scouting for this army, and there would be no wraithlords, but that really is a minor point.

Keep up the good work :)

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Great to see that mire people see the problem with a totally open structure (and revenant spam). I'm pretty sure that mimicking the AMTL structure will make this list way more balanced.

Also agree that war walkers fits way better than rangers for this list.

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+1 for war walkers over scouts

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:36 pm 
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Fire Gales, Stallions, and Towering destroyers

Where are the stats for them? I see the list you can take them but am I missing their stats?


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 8:15 am 
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From Exodite/Maiden World List:

[EDIT] I do not know how accurate/legal these stats are if anyone wants to correct them feel free[/edit]


BRIGHT STALLION
Type Speed Armour Close Combat Firefight
War Engine 30cm 5+ 4+ 5+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Stallion Lasers 45cm 2xMW4+ MW
Hooves (Small Arms) (15cm) Extra Attacks (+1)
(Base Contact) (Assault Weapons) Extra Attacks (+1)

Critical Hit Effect: The Bright Stallion staggers D6cm in a random direction and collapses, destroyed. Any units struck by the falling Knight
suffer a hit.
Notes: Damage Capacity 2, Reinforced Armour, Walker.

FIRE GALE
Type Speed Armour Close Combat Firefight
War Engine 25cm 5+ 5+ 4+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Fire Lance 30cm MW4+ Titan Killer (3 -1 per 15cm from target)
Critical Hit Effect: The Fire Gale staggers D6cm in a random direction and collapses, destroyed. Any units struck by the falling Knight suffer a
hit.
Notes: Damage Capacity 2, Reinforced Armour, Walker.

TOWERING DESTROYER
Type Speed Armour Close Combat Firefight
War Engine 20cm 5+ 4+ 5+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Destroyer Cannon 30cm 2xAP4+ MW
Destroyer Laser 45cm 2xAT4+
(15cm) Small Arms EA+1
Destroyer Sabres (Base Contact) (Assault Weapons) EA+2

Critical Hit Effect: The Towering Destroyer staggers D6cm in a random direction and collapses, destroyed. Any units struck by the falling
Knight suffer a hit.
Notes: Damage Capacity 2, Reinforced Armour, Walker.

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Hello,

Just wondering if there's much movement / development with this list and any chance of "titan clan list 2.3" with some of the downgrades / changes & balancing mentioned in previous posts over the last 18 months.
Everything seems very quiet at the moment.
Who is the current AC?

I would like to start using this army list within the next few months time now that i've collected a enough miniatures to run the list.

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I guess we'll see how it performs at the tournament. That may spur some more interest in the list. I think just PFE100 is in charge I don't think there is a sub AC.

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I wouldn't mind taking this list on too!!

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