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[BatRep] Tau vs Eldar (2ooo)
Breten	Post subject: [BatRep] Tau vs Eldar (2ooo) Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:13 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:15 pm Posts: 177	So I got a chane to play my Tau yesterday.  It wasnt against Tyranids or AMTL like I originally though thouh.  I had to run a couple Confrontation games (I'm the Sentinel for the area, much like the Grey Knights/Outriders), so I didn't play right away.  A friend showed up who wanted to learn pic so he gave a run with some Eldar. Epic Tau 2000 points Battlesuit Cadre Shas'o +2 Crisis Suits (475) Fire Warrior Cadre Devilfish Ethereal (375) Armoured Cadre +2 Hammerheads (500) Stealthsuits +3 Stealth (400) Barracudas (250) From memory he had: 2 Guardians squads with Wave Serpents, an Aspect host with WS, some Warp Spiders, Falcons and a Revenant. We only managed to squeeze in two full turns beofore the end of the day, but at least it was something. He won Strategy first turn. I set up with my HH's in the center of my table edge, Firewarriors were off on the left in some ruins near an objective.  My Crisis suits were off the right, with my Barracudas in support of the suits.  The Stealthsuits were off on the left table edge, and the teleported in on the first turn, receiving a blast marker in the process.   First turn he advanced an aspect squad of Banshees and Scorpions in WS toward the objective in the center of the table with no cover, and unloaded.  The Warp Spiders advanced into some ruins on the left, taking an ojective, while some Guardians on the right adcanced forward and unloaded. I responded with my HH's up the center, taking out 3 of 4 WS, and taking out a few stands of Aspect warriors.  Next the Stealthsuits advanced on the Warp Spiders and took out about half of them.   This time he activated his Revenant and advanced him forward firing into the Hammerheads.  He only took three out for the time being.  I dno't recall what else happened here at the moment. I activated my Firewarriors giving them shots into the Falcons that he had moved in the direction of the Stealthsuits.  The Devilfish took out two Falcons, I was rolling exceptionally well today.  My Crisis suits advanced towards his Guardians on the right, nearly decimating that unit.  My next activation sequence the Barracudas would swoop in and finish off the Guardians causing the remaining four stands to break.   I won strategy second turn, activating the hammerheads, and finishing off the Scorpions and Banshees.  My crisis suits took the objective on the right.   He activated the Revenant, who took out all but two hammerheads, which broke.  I don't recall what else was done, though he took the Objective in the enter of the table.  I managed to wipe out the Warp Spiders and take the Objective on the left, though it was soon contested by his Falcons.  At the end of turn two I controlled 2 Objectives while he had 1. All in all I learnt a lot.  For 2000 points upgrades are not neccessarily worth it.  It's nice having all those shots, but having more units would have been nicer I think.  Thankfully we were pretty eqal in the number of Activations we each had, but having more would have given me a tactical advantage.   My Crisis suits were worth it, but I could see in larger point games where they might be out of their league.  Luckily we play on a scenery heavy table so they get tons of cover to advance in to get close.  And since they were going to take out Infantry it was perfect. The other good thing about yesterday is that I picked up a ton of Epic Tyranids for $50CAN.  All the infantry is painted, and very well, and there's is a ton of bug tanks and 4 of each bio titan.  So now I need to make a list and see what I have to trade.
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Honda

Post subject: [BatRep] Tau vs Eldar (2ooo) Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:41 am

Brood Brother Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas

Breten, Nice synopsis of the battle. Epic Tau 2000 points Battlesuit Cadre Shas'o +2 Crisis Suits (475) Fire Warrior Cadre Devilfish Ethereal (375) Armoured Cadre +2 Hammerheads (500) Stealthsuits +3 Stealth (400) Barracudas (250) This is a nice "one from column A, one from column B" list that gives your opponent a chance to see various aspects of the Tau list. I don't really know enough about the Eldar to comment on their composition, but it seemed like a nice mix of units as well. All in all I learnt a lot. ?For 2000 points upgrades are not neccessarily worth it. ?It's nice having all those shots, but having more units would have been nicer I think. ?Thankfully we were pretty eqal in the number of Activations we each had, but having more would have given me a tactical advantage. ?

I originally felt this way as well, however I think a balance needs to be struck in the smaller point battles. What I think I discovered is that in lower point games, lots of small units break just as easily as in higher points games, however their loss (or lack of use) has a larger impact.

I do agree that more activations is better in general as well, but I think you want to steer towards having one or two more, not a bunch more. JMO

What I currently am looking at (for lower point games), is one larger primary formation that has some depth to it (e.g. FW+HH+PF), with the other formations acting in support.

The smaller formations work like a shields and/or rapiers and set up the larger formations hammer blow, which also tends to have a greater effect at lower points.

Given what figures you have available, you might consider a nice sized crisis cadre, backed up with hammerheads and FW cadres. Did you use the Ethereal at all? What was its impact on the game if any?




My Crisis suits were worth it, but I could see in larger point games where they might be out of their league. ?Luckily we play on a scenery heavy table so they get tons of cover to advance in to get close. ?And since they were going to take out Infantry it was perfect.


I have not played with these a lot, preferring a more mechanized approach. However, my impression of them is that they are fairly fragile and in larger games there tends to be enough other nasty stuff around to really give them heartburn.

You may also discover as I did, that despite GW's attempts to make them nastier in 40K, a couple of girl scout troops with butter knives really mess up their day.



Thanks for posting.