Does anyone use Kroot? They seem quite in effective as they are slow, have no armour and can't shoot. You can add the krootox upgrade but then they can't go in an Orca and lose their only decent delivery method.

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As I understand it, they're supposed to be used as a counter against enemies that drop into your side of the table.
They have the Scouts ability, meaning they have 20cm unit coherency and 10cm zone of control, and are meant to be placed in a manner reducing the places teleporting, airdropping or planetfalling troops can enter, allowing you to dictate their targets.

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I'd consider using a formation in an orca as a T3 blitz grabber.... they should be able to overpower small arty/scout units with 10xCC4+ attacks and outnumber/double outnumber, they're also cheap enough that you can preserve a decent number of activations in the rest of the force....

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Managed to use Kroot a couple of times. Most recently: Epic4K: Thousand Sons vs Kroot Horde!
And somewhat longer ago but featuring scout screen saturation: Black Templar 4.2 vs Tau 6.6

Overall a rather passive aggressive army. Rush forward, occupy space, ideally get enemy to attack you.
The infiltrate gives them a bit more speed if you can find a good clipping target. And best of all, . . . .
For the Greater Good nobody really minds losing Kroot.

You can use the scout screen to keep away teleports and planetfalls.
But the air-assault seems not to be stopped by a scout screen by most (?) people?
Next time I try it I'll leave a hole for the planetfall to displace into. A hole that is
crossfired, markerlit and covered by heavy weapons, . . . .




Still a delicate army to use.

how come you cant take pathfinders as the upgrade to FW with out the transport so you can garrison. Is that the reason so you cant garrison?

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Foot Fire Warriors plus Pathfinder Upgrade is fine for garrisoning.
The sole Devilfish is sometimes a good place to hide an Ethereal as well.

I have more frequently taken a Skyray as the upgrade for a garrisoning
foot Fire Warrior Cadre to extend the AA bubble further forward, on
overwatch, and still have some markerlights in the formation.

You cant do that can you. Either the whole formation moves 15cm or less or you have more scout to normals to garrison.


Putting a skyray in fw takes them over the max 15cm move so cant garrison. Same with takimg the pafh finder upgrade. You cop a single devil fish then cant garrison. Or is this the point of it so you cant?

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You can have 1 unit with movement over 15cm and still garrison the formation. Therefore 1 devilfish or 1 skyray is ok.

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Wow how do i keep misreading this stuff. Did you guys edit it on me when im not looking

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I've found Kroot to be quite useful. As a 10 strong formation of Scouts they can really spread across the board as a speed bump, and Infiltrate lets them contract towards a target pretty rapidly. Plus they're cheap, and they aren't slouches if you do manage to get into CC- something people don't normally expect from Tau!

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I just noticed that Dave amended the tournament pack on 14th August:
https://github.com/dsusco/tp.net-armage ... c7df5871c4

For two changes:
crisis upgrade is 2 for 75 instead of 1 for 50
crisis twin plasma gains AT6+

Evidently the ERC accepted the proposed NDC changes but these are not reflected in the PDF or armyforge or another post in the Tau section.

Who has the original PDF source so that we can push out a 6.9 release?

However while we're figuring that out, I think we may have an unintended consequence. It's no longer possible to have a formation of 5 crisis suits. Instead of spending 50 on this, you now have to spend 75 on a pair of crisis, which can mean the formation is actually more expensive not less. Why not make it 1 for 50, 2 for 75?

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Ok great! I hadn't heard anything back from theERC, bit apparently they approved!

Yeah 1 crisis for 50 or 2 for 75 or 4 for 150 is what I intended. I could probably have been clearar on that.

Huraah, I shall precipitously - perhaps prematurely - cheer the forefront of the rumoured news/change.

Also realised whilst doing the armyforge file the TP wording means you can only have 4 or 6, as an upgrade can only be taken once.

I suggest the wording be:
Add upto 4 Crisis Battlesuits +50 points each or +75 per pair

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