dubhgilla wrote:
Sorry yme-loc I'm certain you put a lot of hard work into this list.
BUT your last 4 post say a lot about you and the problems on this board. Its full of self congratulation, without listening to the problems being brought up by play testers.
'So you can't auto win using my list? Thats your problem, my list is great, you are just playing it wrong'.
You need to see there are problems with this list. Ignore my input I'm a grade 'A' arsehole, but please listen to the other people on this page who are voicing valid concerns and putting a lot of time into battle reports and play testing.
Take your head out of the sand.
Edit: As for patent hunter this is a 3-4 turn game.
You have turns 1 and 2 for patient hunter and turns 3 and 4 for winning.
If I follow your logic, I have a list of people suggesting some changes, mostly to perceived problems brought up by you and Dobbsy.
At the same time I have my own experience with the list, a few other people saying they have experience with the list and like the playstyle but are a little worried about the effect of blast markers, one player saying he is regularly beaten by another using the list and another saying the list is fine.
Why should I send the list completely back to experimental for you making the opinion that the list is unusable (despite a great deal of evidence to the contrary) and because of Dobbsies dice.
Effectively this is what you seem to be suggesting, now unfortunately I can come accross as arrogant (who doesn't sometimes on the internet) and maybe I am arrogant but at the end of the day if I made every suggested change that pops up here there would be no list for people to be bemoaning in the first place.
We have a best of both worlds here, the Third Phase list is a tricky list to use but is very powerful if you get your head arround its playstyle (I have had players think it is too powerful after playing against it). At the same time Matt-Shadowlord has put a lot of very good effort into a much more aggressive style list for those who want to play that way.
So where is the problem?