Login |  Register |  FAQ
   
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

Tau Xar'Ka Armoured Strike List (Experimental)

 Post subject: Re: Tau Xar'Ka Armoured Strike List (Experimental)
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:14 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:43 pm
Posts: 2556
Location: UK
Dobbsy wrote:
Andrew_NZ wrote:
Shooting at an infantry formation the ignore cover hits are applied to those in the open the other hits to those in cover.

IC is mainly a bonus when you're firing at "all targets in cover" situations. Also, don't you get to choose if you're going to fire at "all in cover" or "all out of cover?"

No, you choose between "both in cover and out of cover" or "only out of cover" and then allocate front to back.

_________________
Kyrt's Battle Result Tracker (forum post is here)
Kyrt's trade list


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Tau Xar'Ka Armoured Strike List (Experimental)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:21 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:15 am
Posts: 333
Dobbsy wrote:
Andrew_NZ wrote:
Really cannot see anybody taking the Twin Plasma Rifle variants. Is there anything that could be done to improve that variant? Just saw Fudd's message getting in there first, . . .

Fair enough. Any ideas on what to do with them? I don't have a 40K Tau codex so can't see what optional weapon system HHs can take. I wasn't planning to separately cost HHs but if we have to then we have to. I guess in this list it's more feasible given the focus on armour.

Looking at a variety of other Plasma Weapons (Infantry and Vehicle) I think is would be fine to give the Plasma Rifles an AT shot as well.
Infantry Plasma Guns typically get: Plasma Guns, 15 cm, AP5+/AT5+
Vehicle (and Devastator) Plasma Cannons seem to be: 2 x Plasma Cannons, 30 cm, AP4+/AT4+, slow firing
Leman Russ Executioner has: Plasma Destroyer, 60 cm, MW4+ (don't go there?)

The Warhammer 40K Wiki has:
Quote:
Twin-linked Plasma Cannon - Tau Plasma Cannons are more powerful and up-scaled versions of Battlesuit-mounted Plasma Rifles. They are primarily used to take down light tanks and heavy infantry, a role they often fulfil with exceptional ease.

So taking down tanks is reasonable. Compared to the Railguns (AT/Lance) and Fusion Cannon (MW4+) then any "ordinary" AT shot is aimed at taking down light tanks. I personally think that the Crisis Suit Plasma Rifle should have AT6+ anyway. With the vehicle power systems you might even go for a slightly longer range, 45 cm, say?

Plasma Cannons, 45 cm, AP3+/AT4+, might be a reasonable position.

This would make it roughly the same odds to hit as the missile pod version (Missile Pod Tank clearly better AP sustain fire with markerlights, Plasma Tank better AT shooting if doubling with markerlights, say). The Ion Cannon tank still has the longer reach, sacrificing one on each to hit number (60 cm, AP4+/AT5+)

Again from the Warhammer 40K Wiki the option to arm with Missile Pods is to improve hits against hordes of infantry:
Quote:
Dual Missile Pod - Hammerhead-mounted Missile Pods fire barrages of the same missiles used in Tau Battlesuit-mounted Missile Pods. They serve a similar role to Ion Cannons, but sacrifice effectiveness against armoured infantry for a chance to impact on larger groups of infantry.


As an aside, I do quite like how the less capable Hammerheads will probably only be taken as the cheaper upgrade vehicles. Puts them in the manner of support tanks for a regular formation.

Also like the commander upgrade at 75 points. And the Scorpionfish upgrade at 175 points.
Makes a 2 Scorpionfish + Commander formation at 475 points fit just under other logical BTS formations at 500 points.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Tau Xar'Ka Armoured Strike List (Experimental)
PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:39 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:24 am
Posts: 4499
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Not a bad option. I'm wondering what Yme-loc feels about the Plasma HH.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Tau Xar'Ka Armoured Strike List (Experimental)
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:47 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 7:56 pm
Posts: 698
Location: Lancaster, PA
If I was to field this list, what exactly requires a focused test?

What detachments are in question?

_________________
mattie
http://maashes.blogspot.com/


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Tau Xar'Ka Armoured Strike List (Experimental)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:02 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:15 am
Posts: 333
Play test with this list 4000 points vs Sautekh Necrons.
Battle report thread on Taccom.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Tau Xar'Ka Armoured Strike List (Experimental)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:12 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Tue May 12, 2009 11:33 am
Posts: 36
Location: segmentum solar
question: I remember submunition missiles originally appearing on Stingray as a more 'skyray-like' level vehicle. Was it dropped?


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Re: Tau Xar'Ka Armoured Strike List (Experimental)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:48 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:22 pm
Posts: 26
Location: Exeter, UK
I had my second game playing Xar'ka this evening, and both times the army has done well with the following list at 2000 points-

Armoured Cadre- 8x Railhead- 400
Mechanised Cadre- 2x Fusionhead, Skyray, 4x Fire Warriors, 2x Devilfish- 350
Mechanised Cadre- 2x Fusionhead, Skyray, 4x Fire Warriors, 2x Devilfish- 350
Harassment Cadre- 6x Stealth Battlesuits, 2x Gun Drones- 250
Recon Cadre- 3x Tetra, 2x Piranha TX42- 150
Scorpionfish Cadre- 2x Scorpionfish, Xar’Shas’O character- 500

Everything feels about right, and it really fits my playstyle! Although today the Scorpionfish got alpha striked hard on the first activation of the game by air assaulting Aspect Warriors because I was an idiot and deployed both my Skyrays on one flank :P

_________________
Check out my wargaming blog!- http://mundaneminiatures.blogspot.co.uk/


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


Powered by phpBB ® Forum Software © phpBB Group
CoDFaction Style by Daniel St. Jules of Gamexe.net