Most of the last week has been spent moving the lists out of publisher and into indesign. This includes reformatting the information and reorganizing things to fit together better for printing. For instance, duplexing the weapons list will give you a single sheet with the titan, ordinatus, collectors items and critical effects. The same goes for the unit summary sheets.

There have been three minor updates to the list itself. First, sagitarii have had their CC skill nerfed to 6+ since they were a bit too well rounded and to give the demi-century a bit of a benefit over them. Second, the Crusader Robots have had their CC value nerfed to a 5+. They were just too good with the extra MW CC attack.

Last, I've added back the allies section of the Skitarii list. For the time being I wanted to test out a 25% limit, but if that proves an issue it can go back to 33%. It's mainly to limit the warlord titans since that's where a massive amount of the unit variations come into play.

This version doesn't yet have all the unit data sheets in place, however, I have added in all of the WE and Titan Legions entries that had additional information relating to the units (things like titans stepping over terrain, fire arcs, etc.). Anything that isn't in here yet shouldn't pose a problem since all of the information for the units is on the summary sheet.

Now, this is where more eyes are better. Everything else SHOULD be the same as it was previously; however, the transition to indesign was not a clean one which required me to copy an paste the data from one to the other. I'm prone to making mistakes no matter how well I check things, so if there's a wrong value somewhere PLEASE POST IT. I'm not trying to make ninja nerfs or changes, it probably just got pasted in wrong.

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Sorry Folks, I made a rather large mistake with the PDF and didn't include the formation limits for Ordinatus and Support formations in the Skitarii List. I've updated the file in the first post, please redownload and use the fixed version.

Thanks!

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Well, now that the vote is over, I hope we can put the events of the past few months behind us and get started finalizing the skitarii lists.

At this point I don't see any major changes to formation composition or list structure outside of the allies section. I'd like to push forward with play testing on the current G draft and work from there to tweak stats and point values.

We'll also be starting a cataphractii list and see what needs to be done to include defensive options in the near future. There are several options for this. We can have a separate replacement allies section containing the defensive options, a full list dedicated to it, or a system similar to the collectors section that notes the skitarii have often been required to defend the forgeworld and skitarii armies may select options from a list to portray this.

Now, I'm not going to be able to do all three of these at the same time so if anyone is interested in helping with a cataphractii list, please feel free to contact me and we will see if we can get the ball rolling. Our end goal will be to get the skitarii finalized by December to give us a base for variant lists.

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cataphrati are the tanks yes?

then yes, I'd say put a small set of defensive infrastructure* into the allies slot and a lot more of it into the collectors section (since that's already quite large). But then you knew I'd say that

*and give speaker to machines some credit too.

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yes, cataphractii are tanks.

I'm not sure yet how the defensive bit will play out other than it'll have a section dedicated to it. There have been some rumblings in the background that I think will soon nail that down. It's not going to be anywhere as complex as Speakers list and I'm not sure it'll even take the same route with structures.

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Small update:
There is a type on the cost of the Praetorians. They should be 250 points, not 375. I must have pasted it in wrong and got the old Forge Knight cost there.

Second, I've been mulling over the minorus, weapons selection, and capability vs. the majoris and I've been thinking about the prospect of dropping the minorus company to 2 minorus and the points to 300. I've also been thinking about dropping the upgrade price to 150. This hasn't yet been tested, but the goal is to reduce the capabilities of the arty minorus while keeping the formation capable with direct fire weapons and making both the minorus upgrade and the majoris a bit more attractive.

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