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Even if you rethink the Warden stat wise, it will mean a increase in points to cover the extra ability it gains.
Ähmm..not compulsory. In the Moment are the Wardens not worth their Points. A change of stats AND increas of Points would not make them better. so..why should the do this?
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So it still means I have units that do the job better and at better speed and maybe at the same or better price.
See above
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As for the backbone of the defence, they get one mention in a white dwarf and nothing else after that.
Thats right...in the WD 126 they protect the Keep.
Hmmm...wait a minute..is the Army List not a Knight World PDF-List?
In Titans Legions they talked about a Crusade Army with Knight Support (Wardens normally not leave their Keep)...but i think the Crusade Knights get another List.
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Well if you rethink its roll in the Knights force, then want does it become? The main AA unit ? so does that mean that the towed AA unit get dropped, so the list is not top heavy with AA choice???
Nope, but a 3rd good Choice.. I like the Idea to deploy a real 100% Knight only List. The 30 cm are not enough to cover enough Space. With 45 cm AA the Warden is a better choice, but not a No-Brainer..
-Its still a 300 Points Formation
-they take a Support Household Slot.
And why should i drop the AA-Guns? Maybe both had the same Task but they are very different (stationary, weak armoured, cheap vs. mobile, heavy armoured, expensive). That give the player much opportunity to build different Lists.
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Does it become the a mobile artillery that can take a beating, and have about a 60 to 90 cm indirect range?
Maybe, but i think they can never be better than the Custodian+Howitzer.
.i tought more like this:
Warden with 45cm 2x +5AA/+5AP/+6AT Anti Air Missile Launcher (Anti Air Warden)
(Optional) 45cm 1x +5AP/+6AT Auto Cannon
Warden with 30cm 1BP, Disrupt or IC Assault Gun (Anti-Infantery Warden)
(Optional) 15cm 1x AP5 IC Heavy Flamer (Give FF IC?)
Warden with 75cm 2x +4AP/+4AT Rapid Fire Battlecanon (Anti Tank Warden)
or something other cool thing..(Sniperbattlecannon, One-Shots AT/MW-Missles, boxingMikeTysonCloseCombatWarden?)
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Titans may be just allies, but titans are going to give you more bang for your buck, then the warden unit will. In range, speed and survivability. So it no brainier that the titans are the better choice, then the warden unit. So with the warden in it current state, it has a 100% chance of not been chosen, if titans are in the list.
I am not interested in Titans for "MORE BANG for my BUCKS" and i hate No Brainer Choices.
I want a PDF-
Knights list with Knights which are capable to defend their world by their own and without Imperial Navy and Titan Allies.
And if Titans are a better choice as the Knights (maybe not only Wardens....), i think something is wrong with the List....
Titans are nice, no doubt, but they should be the special feature in a Knight Crusade List, of course withouit Wardens....
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I'm just putting option on the table, which should be done when testing. Dave will have finally say on the warden issue....
Jep...
puh..know my fingers and my Head hurts....